1. Welcome to our site! Electro Tech is an online community (with over 170,000 members) who enjoy talking about and building electronic circuits, projects and gadgets. To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.
    Dismiss Notice

Major gains in fuel economy?

Discussion in 'Alternative Energy' started by crashsite, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. audioguru

    audioguru Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2004
    Messages:
    32,430
    Likes:
    933
    Location:
    Canada, of course!
    Chicks see a guy in an expensive car and know that the bank owns it and he doesn't own anything except a lot of debt.

    When chicks see my cute little dog then they come to see (ME?).
     
  2. 3v0

    3v0 Coop Build Coordinator Forum Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2006
    Messages:
    9,404
    Likes:
    227
    Location:
    OKLAHOMA USA
    I tend to agree with AG.

    In the long run the chick who likes the $ car is after $.
     
  3. Nigel Goodwin

    Nigel Goodwin Super Moderator Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    39,199
    Likes:
    640
    Location:
    Derbyshire, UK
    Perhaps you have recently arrived from another planet?, the residents of this planet are fully aware that "advertising" equals "lying" :p

    These sort of figures are always 'massaged' to look really good.
     
  4. dave

    Dave New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 1997
    Messages:
    -
    Likes:
    0


     
  5. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA

    Thunderchild, when you talk about 17.13 m/litre, what exactly do you mean?
    If it's meter/litre then I would only make 822 meters before requiring a fill up. Hence the tow your fuel tank comment earlier.
    If you mean 17.13 km(kilometer)/litre that would be more accurate.
    Yes, that's what I got with the Ikon, pretty damn good I thought.
    I've actually reached 855 km on a tank full with my Mondeo too, I believe it's even better, much bigger and heavier car.
    The expert economy drivers have reached more than 1000km with the Mondeo. Doubt I'd try and challenge that.
     
  6. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA
    The fact of the matter is, that the car can actually do that. 3.9sec, that is.
    It was 100% proven, and major journos drove the car in that guise too.
    But somehow, for the production version they've seemed to scale down a bit. Probably to get some range out of it. Seems people believe 350km range for a battery vehicle to be adequate.
    I think it still sucks.
     
  7. philba

    philba New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes:
    8
    Location:
    Seattle
    feet firmly on earth. perhaps you didn't read the part about legal system will sort it out.
     
  8. philba

    philba New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes:
    8
    Location:
    Seattle
    Uh, we disagree. They see a guy who's willing to spend money. I think you give them (and most people) too much credit for common sense.
     
  9. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA
    Ahhhhh, Thunderchild

    I just caught a wake-up.

    you're talking miles per litre, whereas I am talking kilometers per litre.

    You are doing better than I am then, 14 miles/litre vs. 17km/litre.
    what car do you drive exactly?

    Oh, I remember now, a Fiesta of some flavour.
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2008
  10. audioguru

    audioguru Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2004
    Messages:
    32,430
    Likes:
    933
    Location:
    Canada, of course!
    Poor people need something expensive in their life.
    They live in a tent but they have a big expensive TV or an expensive car.
    Some poor people live in their expensive car.

    Chicks like guys who are generous, not greedy.
     
  11. Thunderchild

    Thunderchild New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,294
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    UK
    oh you were talking Km and I'm talking miles so actually you do 10.27 MILES to the litre hm is that on a run or round town ?
     
  12. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA
    Hey, Thunderchild.

    That is actually a combined figure, as that was mostly the nature of my driving during that time. Some longer open road like trips of around 50 km (very hilly:)) at a time with some city driving and even peak hour traffic.
    My Mondeo figures are mostly open road, but packed to the brim. It's my 'holiday' vehicle.
    Now my Ikon is responsible for the short bursts.
     
  13. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA
    Funny, over here it always seem to be the poor people who drinks too much alcohol.
     
  14. Thunderchild

    Thunderchild New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,294
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    UK
    hm well I'll get 10.5 miles to the litre on a mix of half a tank on a long trip and half going to work and back each which is 5.5 miles so just enough to get the engine hot
     
  15. Thunderchild

    Thunderchild New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,294
    Likes:
    9
    Location:
    UK
    I think its like that here too, i think people think that drinking is "posh" and the "in thing to do" but frankly i don't see the point then again I lived for 15 years in a country where good wine came as cheap as bottled water in the UK
     
  16. arrie

    arrie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Messages:
    641
    Likes:
    7
    Location:
    Honeydew, Jhb, RSA
    Know what you mean, I walked into our local PicknPay some weeks back and my favourite red wine was marked at R16 per bottle.:eek:
    So I stocked up on some.
    The only thing is, I did not try to finish all in one night.

    See, it's even related to the thread, I'm being economical.

    But, if I take some people that work for us, well, almost have worked for us, they get wages on a Friday. On Monday they complain that they have no money for food. So, where did it all go.
    Filtered by the kidneys and through the bladder, and down the tubes.
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2008
  17. Nigel Goodwin

    Nigel Goodwin Super Moderator Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    39,199
    Likes:
    640
    Location:
    Derbyshire, UK
    Perhaps you don't watch any TV advertising? :p
     
  18. philba

    philba New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes:
    8
    Location:
    Seattle
    well that's, uh, meaningless. Not sure your point. If it's to be quarrelsome, then I get it. Not sure what the smiley conveys, though.

    Let me ask a different question - do you think that the Telsa numbers are completely off the mark? How much to you disbelieve them? Do think it completely doesn't work and that they are selling a non-functional product? Even if the reality is like 50%, that's actually pretty good.
     
  19. Nigel Goodwin

    Nigel Goodwin Super Moderator Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    39,199
    Likes:
    640
    Location:
    Derbyshire, UK
    I think it's probably the absolute maximum they managed to achieve under specific exact conditions - you're unlikely to buy one and achieve similar results.
     
  20. philba

    philba New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes:
    8
    Location:
    Seattle
    Wow, you certainly are stretching your point. Just how many people do you know that actually live in tents and have a big expensive TV or car? Rounds to zero. Where do you get these things?

    I seriously doubt you have a clue about the financial position of people that buy expensive cars. With out going into my personal situation, I know a fair number of people that are wealthy and own expensive cars. And they certainly aren't greedy - they give money freely to a large number of charitable causes. You must be living in a different world from me. Rich does not equal greedy.

    And by the way the term "chick magnet" was a joke. However, women do look for a man that is a good supporter. Many of them equate visible clues to a man's financial status with his ability to provide. Numerous studies have proven that. It's sad that there is such shallowness in the world. Sure you'll get a woman to pet your dog but she'll also take a long look at the guy with an expensive car. Making any assumptions beyond that is pure guesswork.
     
  21. philba

    philba New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes:
    8
    Location:
    Seattle
    but off by how much? In the US, the EPA mileage numbers are well known to the absolute best - thus the well worn expression YMMV.

    By the way, I agree, it was probably a very light driver with a perfectly tuned system. Still, even if they are off by 20%, that's still pretty good. I know people want a much longer range but battery technology is the limiting factor. If it got 100 miles per charge, that would be far more than enough for me. I drive about 24 miles to work and back. Note that if it really only got 100 miles, they would get their *sses sued off.
     

Share This Page