# How to draw a drill hole on the PCB board?The problem is weak. Please don't laugh.

#### jamesbulini

##### New Member
I am a rookie, just started to learn PCB drawing, using Altium Designer 13.
I had a problem: I had to drill a hole in my board, just a physical hole, without electrical properties, not the kind of pad.
At first, because I didn't understand, so.
1. I drew a circle on the schematic Drill Drawing layer to represent the drill hole, but after generating the PCB, I found that the line had passed through the location of the drill hole. I judged that the system did not regard the circle I drew as a drill hole, so it took the line from the position of the circle.
2. I thought it was the wrong layer I chose, so I drew the same circle on the Drill Guide layer. After the PCB is generated, the line is still through the location of the drill hole.

At this point, I do not understand, the schematic only these two layers in the name of the word drill, why I painted circles in both layers, or did not generate boreholes.
Therefore, I would like to ask all the experts:
1. What layer should the drill hole be painted on?
2. Do you only need to draw a circle to drill a hole?

##### Well-Known Member
Never used Altium, but in KiCad, a drill hole/pad is added in the PCB layout, not in the schematic.
Max.

#### jamesbulini

##### New Member
OK.So the Kicad will be easier than Altium right?
One more question,Where are you always get PCB sir?
When this first pcb design done,i want to prototype it.

#### Edd

##### Member
You can do non-plated holes by drawing circles on Mechanical 1 (KiCAD edge cuts) or by creating a pad and setting the hole size to the same size as the pad diameter (i.e. no annular ring).

#### rjenkinsgb

##### Well-Known Member
I do it by having some components defined in a similar way to a terminal pin, but with the layout symbol having a smaller pad than the hole size I've defined for each, just saved as "mounting holes" of different sizes.

Add them to the schematic but do not connect anything to them, then put them where needed as you do the layout.

ps. The program we use is a rather expensive commercial one, but "Designspark PCB" from RS components is very good and totally free.

Max.