Thunderchild
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Well it is as simple as that Hydrogen, we already use gas so what is the issue many convert their cars to gas we use gas for heating and cooking what more do we want,
ah but you will say where do we get it ? answer is easy we make it from water through electrolysis powered by solar panels.
now you are going to say nah what about winter cloud etc. agreed europe and north america will have this problem to a varying degree. what about the african desert where else is there more sun ?
now your gonna say yes but how do we get it to europe (well I live in Europe you american chaps will have to figure it out you way your end). easy don't we already carry methane gas from africa to europe in pipes under the mediteranean ?
Frankly I can't see what all the fuss is over, hell you can even pump the blasted hydrogen down the tube WITH methane why not there's not much difference it is still hydrogen in both cases only that methane has carbon with it so if we were'nt to be able to make enough hydrogen initially we can make it up with methane.
so now you gonna say the most brainy, ah but burning hydrogen will still make heat and cause green house effect. well 1) by eliminating CO2 it will reduce green house effects immediatly as in less bad gasses, secondly a solar panel is not magically making electricity out of nothing just because light and heat beam on it.
as a french scientist long ago established valid for energy and matter: "nothing is created and nothing is destroying - all is transformed" (about the only sane thing my technology teacher taught me). so if our wonderful solar panel is 25 % efficient for every KW of rays hitting it it takes 250 W (of heat) out of that 1 KW and makes it into electricity so even if we were to burn the hydrogen the heat it releases is but the original solar energy that would have hit the earth anyway and heated it by another 250 W per square meter where there is a solar panel.
So whats the big deal ?
ah but you will say where do we get it ? answer is easy we make it from water through electrolysis powered by solar panels.
now you are going to say nah what about winter cloud etc. agreed europe and north america will have this problem to a varying degree. what about the african desert where else is there more sun ?
now your gonna say yes but how do we get it to europe (well I live in Europe you american chaps will have to figure it out you way your end). easy don't we already carry methane gas from africa to europe in pipes under the mediteranean ?
Frankly I can't see what all the fuss is over, hell you can even pump the blasted hydrogen down the tube WITH methane why not there's not much difference it is still hydrogen in both cases only that methane has carbon with it so if we were'nt to be able to make enough hydrogen initially we can make it up with methane.
so now you gonna say the most brainy, ah but burning hydrogen will still make heat and cause green house effect. well 1) by eliminating CO2 it will reduce green house effects immediatly as in less bad gasses, secondly a solar panel is not magically making electricity out of nothing just because light and heat beam on it.
as a french scientist long ago established valid for energy and matter: "nothing is created and nothing is destroying - all is transformed" (about the only sane thing my technology teacher taught me). so if our wonderful solar panel is 25 % efficient for every KW of rays hitting it it takes 250 W (of heat) out of that 1 KW and makes it into electricity so even if we were to burn the hydrogen the heat it releases is but the original solar energy that would have hit the earth anyway and heated it by another 250 W per square meter where there is a solar panel.
So whats the big deal ?
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