questions about external images

[nike6]

I'd say linking the youtube video's in question would be stretching my democratic rights just a little bit too much - see signature.

one more funny than the other, though.
the comments also give a cheerful testimony on their own.

 

[picbits]

May I add that parts of the graphics at the top of this forum are actually hosted on the imageshack site (just to troll a bit).

When imageshack have problems, half the graphics on the top of the page don't show.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

I would not poke him unneccessarily.
the picture you show is a spoof that has been shown on the net many times.

You mean poke Kim Jong Il? He's crazy. If you poke him what will happen?
**broken link removed**

 

[nike6]

don't you know? more tests, more launches.

apparently they have to import matches from outside Korea.

don't underestimate this guy, he's trying very hard.
He's maybe not what you believe.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

What is he trying hard to do?

 

[nike6]

they are quite idealistic.
DPR Korea ~ Paradise.

They have mass games and must exercise very hard, 100,000 ppl.,
and not one mistake.

they are not just sitting in public parks and have booze.

there is no propaganda that Mr. Kim invented airplane and television,
but apparently he did construct some electric generators.

according to state TV and KCNA, he's travelling the DPRK all the time and inspecting farms, factories etc.
I think it's not completley made up, they really have some factories, refineries, coal fields, and the like.

first in 1905 Korea became japanese colony.
then after WW2, it was occupied bt America.
Korean war was 1950 to 1953.
Pyongyang bombed out, and 2 million north Koreans killed.

you should try to understand their viewpoint.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Might be a paradise for Kim Jong, not so nice for the common folk that have to live there.
This is Paradise!: Amazon.co.uk: Hyok Kang: Books

Product Description
THIS IS PARADISE! is both a shocking and moving portrayal of scenes of every day life in North Korea, a secretive and brutal nation. Hyok Kang writes of the public executions, of the labour camps and mines, the punishment for 'anti-social behaviour', the secret watching of Beijing television, and the spies everywhere who help enforce the regime by denouncing any deviations from the rigidly patrolled norm. And when the famine comes so too does death by starvation of friends and close ones, cannibalism, and political purge. All this is normal for Hyok Kang. After all, the propaganda North Koreans are fed by their government insists that compared to the rest of the world, this is paradise! Woven into this portrayal is the individual story of a boy who likes to draw - some of his accomplished illustrations are included in the book - and of his migration to China as an asylum seeker. This is his story of suffering and survival, and is a rare glimpse of a nation closed to the outside world, whose knowledge of what lies beyond its borders is censured and whose leaders are determined to prevent us from knowing their situation.

 

[nike6]

I must give in to one point, in Detroit, there are no public executions, at least not authorized by the government.

**broken link removed**

it does not hurt me, tough.

maybe I'd become arrested or interviewed just for the cause of suspicion, i.e. having some pro- U.S. Beyblade stuff would be ultimatively suspicious.
nonetheless, I've added "Eddy" to the music slideshow.

We can only hope DPRK will improve on human rights.

 

[Hero999]

**broken link removed**

The DPR of Korea (North Korea) will become in the next years the most important hub for trading in North-East Asia. Lowest labour cost in Asia.

Highly qualified, loyal and motivated personnel. Education, housing and health service is provided free to all citizens. As opposed to other Asian countries, worker's will not abandon their positions for higher salaries once they are trained.

Lowest taxes scheme in Asia. Especially for high-tech factories. Typical tax exemption for the first two years.

No middle agents. All business made directly with the government, state-owned companies. No middle agents.

Stable. A government with solid security and very stable political system, without corruption.

Full diplomatic relations with most EU members and rest of countries.

New market. Many areas of business and exclusive distribution of products (sole-distribution).

Transparant legal work. Legal procedures, intellectual rights, patents and warranties for investors settled.

North Korea is socialist? What rubbish, going from what I've read from their site it's one giant corporatist slave camp.

Of course workers' can't abandon their positions for higher salaries because they have no choice, they are all surfs bound to their dear leader for eternity.

The North Korean site also has a forum but don't bother joining if you want to spread American imperialist lies. **broken link removed**, right North Korea isn't imperialist, their dear leader only feasts on lobster whilst the population are on the brink of starvation.

While we're on talking about left wing extremists, I laughed out loud reading some of the posts on the forum linked below.
Soviet-Empire.com

With reference to North Korea and socialism.

Of course because it is a "passive" implementation of Socialism. Just like today's China.

I have difficulties accepting DPRK as socialism

Hi dear comrades.
I'm searching for a communist smiley to do some propaganda on MSN messenger.

Anyone have one ?

Communist smiley

This thread is also quite funny but there's too much stuff to quote.

 

[nike6]

well say thank you to Japan- they annexed Korea in the year 1905.
before of that it was a monarchy.

so currently DPRK is "protected" by communism- but it is rather absolute monarchy. they call it "Juche Idea Socialism".

in the west people sometimes think they are similar to African bush and must be "civlized" with rock music, fast cars, and suburban fast food.
it is a fundamental mis-shaped thought.

I would not want to start discussions on that soviet forum, for many reasons, for instance, I have not witnessed CCCP-era myself (in Russia). so what should I say?

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Protected from what? Democracy?
Look at South Korea, it's a night and day difference.

Would you want to live in the DPRK?

 

[nike6]

there are two Korea movie's which I'd recommend,
ARAHAN (in the attachment)
and also ACACIA.

both are from south Korea.
also SKY BLUE is Korean (they have a scene within a dog's meat factory).

it is not so much democratic.
If you say something in Japan, all the people you know will stop supporting you from one day to the other with no explanation, and you will loose your job.
for this reason most people do not talk much about domestic politics.
there is some variety/comedy where they make jokes about the politican's, but that's pretty much it.

yet in DPRK there is very little margin to criticize the government, as they are monarchy from 19th or 18th century, such a concept does not even exist.
well they call themselves "democratic people's republic".

but you do not get democracy or freedom just by doing some painting, or a label "free software".
you should ask, "free of what".

 

[Hero999]

so currently DPRK is "protected" by communism- but it is rather absolute monarchy. they call it "Juche Idea Socialism".

It's not socialist but state capitalist, just like the Soviet Union used to be.

The government runs the country as one huge company, enslaving the entire population who are not allowed to leave. So-called communist states practise serfdom on a far greater scale than any feudal society ever did.

I would not want to start discussions on that soviet forum, for many reasons, for instance, I have not witnessed CCCP-era myself (in Russia). so what should I say?

Nor have I but I've visited a former Soviet republic (Ukraine) and witnessed the mess left behind by the so-called communist government.

The Soviets retarded development in much of eastern Europe by at least 25 years.

It would be interesting to travel to North Korea and see what it's like but to be honest I'm too scared of going because I might not be able to leave.

I'm more interested in going to Belarus, which I've been told hasn't changed since the fall of the USSR and remains a de-facto communist state to this day.

but you do not get democracy or freedom just by doing some painting, or a label "free software".
you should ask, "free of what".

Free of control by one company.

Free software (with relation to open source) means freedom, as in the freedom to modify it, redistribute it and sell it providing you give other people the same freedoms with the free software you've modified, sold, distributed etc.

 

[nike6]

Free software (with relation to open source) means freedom, as in the freedom to modify it, redistribute it and sell it providing you give other people the same freedoms with the free software you've modified, sold, distributed etc.

It is a theoretical freedom.

In many cases you'd be better of to re-write it,
let it be re-designed by some programmers from India,

or even think about a completely new software.

I have seen quite large undocumentated software complexe's,

A.: no source code comments
B.: no companion PDF's explaining what's going on
C.: no explanation of the interfaces (I think they withold that data)
D.: cobbled together by various people (such a FreeDOS), and in return, 3 times slower than a good original DOS.

it is, as for the FSF, "what the FSF believes would be freedom, or free software". it might be more restricitive than healthy commercial software, which has free editions (as binaries).

 

[nike6]

The Soviets retarded development in much of eastern Europe by at least 25 years.

I consider it interesting - the soviets somehow got hold of Intel 8086 and small EPROMs.
But the American's did not copy off from the Soviet's semiconductor technology.

Maybe LEDs and RISC PICs indeed are soviet design and innovation, and Monsanto does not want us to know?

I have one encyclopedia book, where they list Toronto Tower, some 550 metres, as the highest in the world.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Why would anyone copy Soviet semiconductor design from the cold war era. What does Monsanto (a food company) have to do with LEDs & RISC PICs?

The CN tower I can see it from here, it is 553M tall and also a great antenna for broadcasting. The restaurant is OK not great, they used to have an AYCE brunch that was great.

 

[nike6]

Monsanto make many things.

they made the first LED displays/LEDs back in the 1960s.

if you see MAN on an old display (there are few on youtube) I think it's their code.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Ah that Monsanto back in the early 70's. Yep they made LEDs or at least the chemicals.

 

[nike6]

I've enjoyed the replies but it is political discussion.
the original question was answered.

I just read that political discussion is not allowed.
I do not want to be blamed for spreading politics over various threads.

 

[Hero999]

In many cases you'd be better of to re-write it, let it be re-designed by some programmers from India, or even think about a completely new software.

You're free to do that since the algorithms are all open and available to you.

I have seen quite large undocumentated software complexe's,

A.: no source code comments
B.: no companion PDF's explaining what's going on
C.: no explanation of the interfaces (I think they withold that data)
D.: cobbled together by various people (such a FreeDOS), and in return, 3 times slower than a good original DOS.

Have you seen the source code for the original MS-DOS?

Which version of FreeDOS was it?

To be honest I haven't done a speed comparison but lots of the files are much smaller than the MS-DOS equivalents. Take CuteMouse for example, it's a heck of a lot smaller and less bloated than the Microsoft mouse driver.

it is, as for the FSF, "what the FSF believes would be freedom, or free software". it might be more restricitive than healthy commercial software, which has free editions (as binaries).

With most commercial software you don't have the freedom to view the code so how do you know it's any better?

By the way, lots of free software is commercial: Redhat Linux and OpenOffice.org spring to mind.

The Soviets retarded development in much of eastern Europe by at least 25 years.

I consider it interesting - the soviets somehow got hold of Intel 8086 and small EPROMs.

The Soviets got hold of US technology by espionage and reverse engineering.

The Soviet only innovated areas that were important for holding the empire together: mainly the fields of defence and aerospace. If your idea wasn't going to help the space or nuclear arms race then no one cared and you weren't given the freedom to develop it.

How did the Soviets hold back eastern Europe?

The Soviets held back eastern Europe by setting up a system where one was not rewarded for their hard work but by loyalty to the state. They suppressed economic growth by: blocking foreign investment, fixing the prices of everything, enslaving the population in monopolistic state companies and forbidding private enterprise of any kind. Communication technologies such has printing, typewriters, telephones were only allowed to be owned and used by the Communist party. This was to prevent 'enemies of the people' from distributing 'dangerous propaganda'.

In the USSR you couldn't choose where you lived or what job you did, everything was under government control. It turns out that preventing people from innovating, making money and living life to the full is a quite effective way of holding back development.

But the American's did not copy off from the Soviet's semiconductor technology.

Maybe LEDs and RISC PICs indeed are soviet design and innovation, and Monsanto does not want us to know?

I doubt it, many Soviet calculators and computers also exhibited the same bugs and design errors as their US counterparts because they were inferior copies.

Why would the US want to copy something inferior to their own design?

I just read that political discussion is not allowed.

Blame me, I'm enjoying the discussion too and I'm continuing it.

So far it's been fairly friendly so I don't see what harm it can do. It's also being loosely centred on the topic of the forum so I why it should be considered inappropriate.