Problem with programming a 16F1708 via PICKIT 3

[ljcox]

I bought a PK3 some months ago & used it to programme a 16F1708 via MPLAB 8.92.
(I have MPLABX but have not worked out how the use it fully & did not want to waste time climbing the learning curve). 8.92 does all I want.

However, the programming software I have used for years (WINPIC) does not include the 16F1708. So I had to buy the PK3

Yesterday, I tried to use PK3 again to do another 16F1708 and received the "Target device ID (0x0) does not match ......0" message.
I connected my scope to the Vpp (without the PIC installed) and found it was only 4.4 Volt rather than the required 8 ~ 9 Volt. I checked the hardware and it was OK.
I also tried to programme a 12F675 but received the same message.

It would be excellent if someone knows how to enter the 16F1708 into WINPIC.

Any advice will be appreciated.

 

[Ian Rogers]

Have you tried to configure winpic yourself... Shows you how here.. https://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/winpic/#unsupported_pics

Pickit3 is a pain as it doesn't hold any firmware data, it requires each chip programming firmware to be uploaded every chip change.. That said you only need to set a voltage in the settings tab... However!! Are you sure MPLAB 8xx supports that chip?? Its a bit new for MPLAB 8xx

 

[ljcox]

Thanks Ian, that is exactly what I wanted know.
The 16F1709 is the only PIC that I use that is not covered by WINPIC. So I'll look at the link & add the 16F1708.
Yes, MPLAB does include the 1708 but the simulation does not work fully.
The interrupts on change on the RC i/o don't work but I was able to work around that without much problem.

 

[ljcox]

Have you tried to configure winpic yourself... Shows you how here.. https://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/winpic/#unsupported_pics

Pickit3 is a pain as it doesn't hold any firmware data, it requires each chip programming firmware to be uploaded every chip change.. That said you only need to set a voltage in the settings tab... However!! Are you sure MPLAB 8xx supports that chip?? Its a bit new for MPLAB 8xx

Ian,
After trying several suggestions by people on other forums, I concluded that my PK3 is faulty. So I gave up on it.
So then I tried to enter the 16F1708 into WINPIC according to the link you gave me. I managed to do part of it, but eventually came to an impasse. I could not work out what to do next. The instructions are not clear. So rather than waste more time trying to work it out, I have decided to use a different PIC - one that is in WINPIC. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Ian Rogers]

Fair enough... But this problem will resurface at a later date.. If you contact MicroChip, they may change the pickit3 FOC...

 

[ljcox]

Fair enough... But this problem will resurface at a later date.. If you contact MicroChip, they may change the pickit3 FOC...

Thanks Ian, but what does FOC mean?

 

[Mickster]

Free Of Charge.

 

[ljcox]

Thanks Ian for the suggestion & Mickster for the translation. However, I bought the PK3 via Ebay in Nov 17. So, if there was a warranty (which I doubt) it will have expired. So I decided to buy another one. They are much cheaper through Ebay than from Microchip & others. I know the quality may be doubtful, but I'm willing to take the risk.

 

[Ian Rogers]

I have a genuine ( well three ) and a couple of cheapies.. All work well. I have one for each product... I don't like messing each device swap..