Not enough to change the others minds. Just idiotic.Wonder how many have died because they didn't get vaccinated due to anti-vaxxer's propaganda.
Wonder how many have died because they didn't get vaccinated due to anti-vaxxer's propaganda.
Darwinism at work - if people are that stupid their genes are better off out of the population!
Every adult that hasn't been infected greatly benefits from vaccination but it seems natural immunity will be an important fact in ending the pandemic.Background: Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods: We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups: (1)SARS-CoV-2-naive individuals who received a two-dose regimen of the BioNTech/Pfizer mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine, (2)previously infected individuals who have not been vaccinated, and (3)previously infected and single dose vaccinated individuals. Three multivariate logistic regression models were applied. In all models we evaluated four outcomes: SARS-CoV-2 infection, symptomatic disease, COVID-19-related hospitalization and death. The follow-up period of June 1 to August 14, 2021, when the Delta variant was dominant in Israel. Results: SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected. Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
These people are in effect spreading mistrust and misinformation due to their ignorance, gullibility or stupidity - probably all three!
I can assure you that many people that don't think like you are not ignorant, gullible, nor stupid.Anyone (without good medical advice due to their specific medical condition) who doesn't accept the vaccine when offered needs their head examined and is helping extend the pandemic by not doing their bit to make the population less vulnerable. These people are in effect spreading mistrust and misinformation due to their ignorance, gullibility or stupidity - probably all three!
I disagree with the latter part of your post. The point of getting a vaccine is to minimize symptoms if you do become infected, as it teaches your body to handle it more easily. The symptoms (coughing especially) is one of the biggest modes of transmission, so if coughing is reduced then the chances of spreading it to those around you is also drastically reduced.I can assure you that many people that don't think like you are not ignorant, gullible, nor stupid.
If you want the vaccine, go for it; you can still become infected, cultivate a massive viral load (of potentially vaccine-resistant strains), infect others, and to a lesser-extent, become ill.
Younger people without comorbidities have minimal reason to be C19 vaccinated. I have no need to get these particular vaccines.
While that is a commendable attitude, I'm not sure everything is so straight-forward.I disagree with the latter part of your post. The point of getting a vaccine is to minimize symptoms if you do become infected, as it teaches your body to handle it more easily. The symptoms (coughing especially) is one of the biggest modes of transmission, so if coughing is reduced then the chances of spreading it to those around you is also drastically reduced.
The vaccine is not necessarily designed to protect you as much as it is designed to protect those around you. I, for one, am not afraid of getting COVID - I am healthy enough it wouldn't cause any major complications for me. However, I got the vaccine, I wear a mask, I wash my hands frequently, I minimize close-quarters contact because I want to protect everyone around me. It's common courtesy.
How many more of these stories need to make the headlines?Younger people without comorbidities have minimal reason to be C19 vaccinated. I have no need to get these particular vaccines.
Absolutely, things most certainly are not straightforward. Different vaccines have different levels of efficacy, some do a much better job at teaching the body to fight the virus. Additionally, underlying medical issues may render vaccines less effective for a small minority of people. There are a lot of variables at play so it will always be a calculated risk.While that is a commendable attitude, I'm not sure everything is so straight-forward.
Have a look at how effective the vaccine has been in Israel: https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination-israel-impact
Jerusalem’s Herzog Medical Center, hospital head Dr. Kobi Haviv stated: “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated,” and “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in fully vaccinated people”.
While the vaccine was working well initially, it wears out very quickly, as you'll see in the graphs. I don't know the age or other makeup of the critical patients, but presumably this is important.
While that is a commendable attitude, I'm not sure everything is so straight-forward.
Have a look at how effective the vaccine has been in Israel: https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination-israel-impact
Jerusalem’s Herzog Medical Center, hospital head Dr. Kobi Haviv stated: “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated,” and “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in fully vaccinated people”.
While the vaccine was working well initially, it wears out very quickly, as you'll see in the graphs. I don't know the age or other makeup of the critical patients, but presumably this is important.
I was perhaps a little harsh in my choice of words, but not much.I can assure you that many people that don't think like you are not ignorant, gullible, nor stupid.
If you want the vaccine, go for it; you can still become infected, cultivate a massive viral load (of potentially vaccine-resistant strains), infect others, and to a lesser-extent, become ill.
Younger people without comorbidities have minimal reason to be C19 vaccinated. I have no need to get these particular vaccines.
The Asante system encompasses three hospitals in the Rogue Valley — in the cities of Ashland, Medford and Grants Pass. All three ICU's are 100% full of COVID-19 patients, according to staff.
"We've had two deaths today. So, it's a very grim, difficult time," said ICU Medical Director Dr. Michael Blumhardt on a recent Tuesday in August.
In contrast to earlier phases of the pandemic, the Asante hospitals are now treating COVID-19 patients in their 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s, according to Blumhardt.
"We're seeing clusters of families being admitted. We had a father and an adult daughter admitted to the intensive care unit and he passed away. Right before, I had to put the daughter on life support," he says.
Overall, vaccination rates in many states look pretty good. But zoom in, and you'll see a checkerboard effect with huge differences from county to county. Oregon is no different. In and around metropolitan Portland, two-thirds of all residents are fully vaccinated. But rural counties aren't even close to that; many have vaccination rates that are less than 50% or even 40%. Jackson County, in southern Oregon, is home to the largest number of unvaccinated individuals in the state. That's pushing the local hospitals to the limit.
Residents of Jackson County are starting to respond to the crisis. The rate of new vaccinations here has grown, and is now to about twice that of the Portland area. But thousands of people still need to be vaccinated to catch up.
I don't understand this argument.may be offering 'understanding' from the viewpoint that personal choice is paramount
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