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AC hfe? DC Hfe?crowinu said:hi guys,
i'm doing some HFE tester and i need to compare the GAIN of TRANSISToR with a referce value.
any ideas how cna i do it ?
regards,
crowinu
Ron H said:AC hfe? DC Hfe?crowinu said:hi guys,
i'm doing some HFE tester and i need to compare the GAIN of TRANSISToR with a referce value.
any ideas how cna i do it ?
regards,
crowinu
At what current level(s)? What Vce level(s)?
The values you get will depend on these parameters.
Russlk said:If your collector voltage is above the saturation region, the Hfe won't change much with collector voltage, so all you need is a resistor in the collector to measure the collector current and a resistor in the base circuit to measure the base current.
yes.crowinu said:Russlk said:If your collector voltage is above the saturation region, the Hfe won't change much with collector voltage, so all you need is a resistor in the collector to measure the collector current and a resistor in the base circuit to measure the base current.
you mean i get ib and ic and then with ic/ib i get the gain ?
akg said:yes.crowinu said:Russlk said:If your collector voltage is above the saturation region, the Hfe won't change much with collector voltage, so all you need is a resistor in the collector to measure the collector current and a resistor in the base circuit to measure the base current.
you mean i get ib and ic and then with ic/ib i get the gain ?
Russlk said:So, you need 3 or 4 A/Ds in the microcontroller to measure the base voltage, the base drive voltage, the collector voltage, and if the VCC is not fixed, a 4th A/D to measure VCC. Alternativly, you could use one A/D and switch the inputs.
Nigel Goodwin said:The classic way to measure gain is to measure only ONE parameter, the collector current. For your purposes it would be easier to measure the collector voltage, you can then easily calculate the current and hence the gain.
The technique is to feed the base from a constant current source, no need to measure it as you already know what it is.
So historically, you would feed the base via a constant current source, and have a milliammeter in the collector, by suitable selection of the constant base current and meter range, you can read the current gain directly off the analogue meter scale.
There are obviously far more complicated methods, but this is simple, easy to do, and should do all you need?.
crowinu said:Nigel Goodwin said:The classic way to measure gain is to measure only ONE parameter, the collector current. For your purposes it would be easier to measure the collector voltage, you can then easily calculate the current and hence the gain.
The technique is to feed the base from a constant current source, no need to measure it as you already know what it is.
So historically, you would feed the base via a constant current source, and have a milliammeter in the collector, by suitable selection of the constant base current and meter range, you can read the current gain directly off the analogue meter scale.
There are obviously far more complicated methods, but this is simple, easy to do, and should do all you need?.
yes i think its a goo idea. i dont want to see the gain trough an anlaouge meter cause i need to determine if the gain of the tested transistor is bigger of smaller than a certain value.
thanks nigel
You don't need a microcontroller. You could do this with a comparator, unless you are doing it as an assignment for a class.crowinu said:Nigel Goodwin said:The classic way to measure gain is to measure only ONE parameter, the collector current. For your purposes it would be easier to measure the collector voltage, you can then easily calculate the current and hence the gain.
The technique is to feed the base from a constant current source, no need to measure it as you already know what it is.
So historically, you would feed the base via a constant current source, and have a milliammeter in the collector, by suitable selection of the constant base current and meter range, you can read the current gain directly off the analogue meter scale.
There are obviously far more complicated methods, but this is simple, easy to do, and should do all you need?.
yes i think its a goo idea. i dont want to see the gain trough an anlaouge meter cause i need to determine if the gain of the tested transistor is bigger of smaller than a certain value.
thanks nigel
Ron H said:You don't need a microcontroller. You could do this with a comparator, unless you are doing it as an assignment for a class.
ok i undestood that, but need to do it with a microcontroller maybe i didn't explain myself right
Nigel Goodwin said:Ron H said:You don't need a microcontroller. You could do this with a comparator, unless you are doing it as an assignment for a class.
I was basing that on his earlier post!
ok i undestood that, but need to do it with a microcontroller maybe i didn't explain myself right
Presumably it's a class project, or he wants to add more functionality?.
crowinu said:hi there guys,
how can i generate a variable current source with a microcontroller ? any hep of how can i do it ??
regards crowinu
Nigel Goodwin said:crowinu said:hi there guys,
how can i generate a variable current source with a microcontroller ? any hep of how can i do it ??
regards crowinu
Switch different resistor values, you probably don't require variable current, just a small switched selection of values.
If you do want fully variable?, you need to provide an analogue output, use either an R2R ladder, or PWM and filter - in both cases you will need to convert the voltage to a current.
crowinu said:i am already using the pmw to generate a variable power supply, so i guess i have to use the r2r ladder. i will search some info about r2r ladders.