Well I know how to hook it up now, I ruined em both, I dont know what happened, either connected them to too high an open voltage from my walkie talkie charger or something, point is I know now to not use that zero output. Now I have to wait for my dealer (Wallco) in Wilkes-Barre Pa to get more, Im gonna get 3 and count to a thousand... My dad has a small store and I take the back way and see the employees always in the back takin breaks, my dad is curious, not a nut buster but he asked if there was a way to know how many times that back door is open at night, cuz its only supposed to be open for 2 shift breaks, they go for a smoke or whatever, I dont care what they do we just wanna let em know that we know and dont take advantage..... and I wanna thank you for your help.. Jim