Which IDE should I use to program a bare ARM chip?

[Sashvat]

Hi guys, I want to be able to program a bare chip ARM chip (I have STM32 ARM chips) and other necessary items like the ST Link V2. I heard IDE's like the Keil-MDK are all limited to just 32kB of code and when I make code of greater space, I need to pay for it. Can you suggest some IDE's that are free and don't have any restrictions as such?

Thank you

 

[rjenkinsgb]

There is an ARM toolchain that works with the CodeBlocks IDE?

I've never used it myself, but it may be worth a look.

https://codeblocks.org/

This shows it running on linux, the Windows appearance should be similar, I think:

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[Sashvat]

There is an ARM toolchain that works with the CodeBlocks IDE?

I've never used it myself, but it may be worth a look.

https://codeblocks.org/

This shows it running on linux, the Windows appearance should be similar, I think:

FriendlyARM- Using Code Blocks to develop Applications

In this post I shall demonstrate the ways of developing programs for mini2440 using Code Blocks. Code Blocks is a free cross platform IDE with powerful features. Install Code Blocks using th…

alselectro.wordpress.com

Thanks a lot, is Attolic TrueStudio a good IDE to program?

 

[be80be]

Keil is the best just the limit hurts
Code Blocks has big learning curve

 

[Sashvat]

Keil is the best just the limit hurts
Code Blocks has big learning curve

so is Code Blocks good or not? I don't see ARM Programming written any where on the website, so I just wanted to confirm with you? What are your thoughts on Atollic TrueStudio?

 

[be80be]

Code blocks is really hard to setup on windows.
I liked atollic the best

 

[be80be]

Arduino ide is good for blue pill

 

[Sashvat]

Code blocks is really hard to setup on windows.
I liked atollic the best

Theres no restriction as such on Atollic TrueStudio right?

 

[Sashvat]

Arduino ide is good for blue pill

I have a question related to this, lets say I build my own MC development board with the STM32F103C8T6 the same used on the Blue pill, can I directly plug in the built-at-home MC dev board and code it using Arduino? Or do I need to something else to make it run Arduino Code?

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

I have a question related to this, lets say I build my own MC development board with the STM32F103C8T6 the same used on the Blue pill, can I directly plug in the built-at-home MC dev board and code it using Arduino? Or do I need to something else to make it run Arduino Code?

A simple google tells you all you need to know:

**broken link removed**

As that explains, the STM32 includes a serial bootloader - I would also suggest you copy the circuit from there, as you're basically duplicating it anyway, as it includes jumpers for run/loading etc. You could also take the opportunity to correct the few minor defects mentioned in the Wiki.

If you're planning programming via the serial port (rather than flashing a USB bootloader) I would also suggest you add a socket so you can plug an FTDI module straight in, to save any messing about.

 

[Sashvat]

A simple google tells you all you need to know:

**broken link removed**

As that explains, the STM32 includes a serial bootloader - I would also suggest you copy the circuit from there, as you're basically duplicating it anyway, as it includes jumpers for run/loading etc. You could also take the opportunity to correct the few minor defects mentioned in the Wiki.

If you're planning programming via the serial port (rather than flashing a USB bootloader) I would also suggest you add a socket so you can plug an FTDI module straight in, to save any messing about.

ok, so without the boot loader, no STM32F103C8T6 chip will work with the Arduino IDE right?

 

[Sashvat]

But a general question, what is a boot loader and how can I program one?

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

ok, so without the boot loader, no STM32F103C8T6 chip will work with the Arduino IDE right?

No, as all chips have at least a serial bootloader, as it says in the Wiki.

 

[Sashvat]

No, as all chips have at least a serial bootloader, as it says in the Wiki.

what is a serial bootloader?

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

what is a serial bootloader?

A bootloader that works via a serial port, as opposed to a USB bootloader.

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

As I've ordered myself an ST-Link this afternoon (it was cheap, I couldn't resist) I did a little research:

http://idyl.io/arduino/how-to/program-stm32-blue-pill-stm32f103c8t6/

So that's two different methods of programming your STM32 from the Arduino IDE.

 

[be80be]

There is only one thing if the TS is having problems loading code on a blue pill ?
How do you think it will be better making your own board the same divers used to load code with a programmer going to have same problems.

And the blue pill can be programmed serial or a ST-link I used serial and the Arduino ide I've used ST-link too
But using Arduino ide is simple and not that hard to setup.

I think I'd work on getting it going with the Arduino ide.