Without exceeding the legally determined levels it is not considered toxic (Threshold limits) thusly making the claim that it is a moral superiority thing moot.
No copper sulphate is extremely toxic to aquatic life.
I know you think scientists over react with al1 that measuring they do, i suspect your unit of tolerance is the meter, personally i start at the mm. Anyway copper sulphate and its toxicity
https://www.ojafr.ir/main/attachments/article/73/OJAFR, A,19.pdf
Now my statement was copper is highly toxic in aquatic systems but not illegal. This is taken directly from that paper, incidentally i just grabbed the first open access paper, there are literally thousands of them. Your the first person i have ever met who does not consider copper salts deadly in the aquatic environment, maybe you should right a paper on it as i could find none to back you up.
I took the liberty of highlighting the bits of relevance for you, i understand you dont like wading through text. So you mentioned within limits etc, now thats a reasonable statement so lets look at its toxicity and see if its just a little toxic like say paracetamol overdose levels, or highly toxic like say the amounts of arsenic needed to kill.
Tilapia are fish and known as a biological model fish, they are very robust, so i found the levels of 58mg-70mg per ltr, or we could express this as (0.058-0.070 per Kg) somewhat shocking, seeing as molluscs etc are roughly 3,000 times more sensitive to copper than fish are.
So turns out in terms of toxicity that copper is far more toxic to aquatic life than arsenic is to us. By how much?
Well that is indeed many times more toxic!
Approx 85 times more toxic to robust aquatic life forms than arsenic is to us. Now i can explain the maths if you like, but this makes it extremely dangerous to more susceptible life forms such as shrimps and molluscs.
I think when stating something is moot, one really should look into the facts first, after all even the very uneducated (i am not suggesting for a second you are uneducated) would struggle to defend
Without exceeding the legally determined levels it is not considered toxic (Threshold limits) thusly making the claim that it is a moral superiority thing moot.
In any way shape or form, although i suspect you will try and obfuscate the point rather than concede you were in fact way off with your statement.
My moral superiority says that if it meets legal requirements its good and decent and that anyone pushing for unrealistically higher or whatever standards is after a likely morally questionable agenda that falls outside of defined law and good and reasonable public best interests.
Superiority, no one mentioned anyone being superior, i think it is clear from my race comments that moral responsibility lays with us all equally. It does disturb me somewhat when you use word like superior etc, it comes across as if you think some are less equal or responsible than others? My initial point was exactly the opposite, if you share the planet you have a equal responsibility, that is why i asked for clarification on why you mentioned race and education. I asked for 2 simple one word answers.
Maybe the question posed was not understood? if so i am happy to clarify.
IE, which goes along with all of my examples. Its undefinable as to which side is morally better (likely neither since we have laws to mitigate such nonsensical pseudo hierarchical definitions of others actions and rights) since both sides standards of moral superiority claim higher ground based entirely on subjective reasoning and views.
You think yours is more moral, due to subjective personal values the legal system does not recognize which by many peoples like myselfs moral views makes you an extremist of one of more questionable agendas and ties to factual reality. A moral stalemate and only one of us gets and accepts it as a fact of life and thusly does not push the issue as if there is something to win for it.
My moral actions and justifications are grounded in the laws as they stand based on scientific determinations. Yours are based on idealisms and nothing else and I would like to think that you know what history shows about the reality of idealists and their agendas.
No i cant see and reasonable answer to my question there, normal semi ranting but nothing of substance in support of your case. I think the most telling part is this bit.
My moral actions and justifications are grounded in the laws as they stand based on scientific determinations. Yours are based on idealisms and nothing else
Your statement is very clear, so i will pose this question for you to ponder.
You state your actions and views are
My moral actions and justifications are grounded in the laws as they stand based on scientific determinations
And yet you provide no supporting evidence of any kind scientific or otherwise. I think that is known as a self retracted statement. especially when the next bit states.
Yours are based on idealisms and nothing else
Again even the lower spectrum of educated should be able to see that you have the entire statement back to front, I have included the full scientific paper (one of many i can cite if you wish) to back my position, so i feel your somewhat unfair to accuse me of idealism, especially after claiming you base your morals on scientific fact yet provide nothing to back your position.
Others can weigh the evidence from both sides, i feel it is unlikely i can be accused by rational intelligent people of being purely a idealist, i would like to think most having the evidence would see my views as balanced and supported by science.
I do not wish to make a comment on your position, the evidence provided is conclusively clear, i do suspect however we will be subjected to low grade obfuscation semi literate ramblings with no supporting evidence, but i am open minded enough to wait and see.