The output of Op-Amp[LM324] has error as non-inverting Amp

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booboo1

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Hi everybody
I'm a newbie and working on LM324 to learn Op-Amp. this is my circuit:

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One of the resistors is 217ohm and another 978ohm. then the gain should be 4.50691 as you can see. so far so good. I know this is for ideal Op-Amp. I applied 0.15v to the input and got 0.94v in the output. then the gain is 6.26667. again I applied 0.35v to the input and got 2.03v then gain should be 5.8!?
again I applied 1.86v and got 10.31 then the gain is 5.54301! holy crap! why isn't the gain stable? because of input offset voltage? How can I stabilize it?
 
Try drawing a graph of Input Volts vs Output Volts, is it linear?

Consider that you may have the wrong expression for the the gain. Gain = 1+ R2/R1 may give better results.

JimB
 
The gain is 1+R2/R1 ~ 5.5
Input offset voltage is max. 5mV and it could explain the results.
 
You should increase the resistor values to that their sum is at least 2kΩ.
 
Try drawing a graph of Input Volts vs Output Volts, is it linear?

Consider that you may have the wrong expression for the the gain. Gain = 1+ R2/R1 may give better results.

JimB
What would happen if that would not be linear?
 
WoW! Thanks for great post.
How the "output resistance" could influence on choosing Rf?
Totally my big problem is that I don't know how to choose the best resistor for my op-amp and my job (Rin and Rf)?
 
What would happen if that would not be linear?
You thought the gain was varying.
I plotted your values on a graph, it was linear, so the gain was constant, but there was an offset.

Try some higher values of resistors as other have suggested, do some more measurements and see what happens.

JimB
 
You thought the gain was varying.
I plotted your values on a graph, it was linear, so the gain was constant, but there was an offset.

Try some higher values of resistors as other have suggested, do some more measurements and see what happens.

JimB
I used 145.6kohm as Rf and 2.14kohm as Rin and got acceptable output(gain=69.03). for example 70.1mv as input, got 4.83v
 
The output resistance (ESR) of the opamp affects the gain only a small amount since the open loop gain of the LM324 opamp is typically 100,000 at DC and low frequencies. The circuit's negative feedback effectively reduces the output resistance to almost zero.
 
I guess you can treat it as low impedance once you remain within the spec'd output load current.

BTW, if you're using a high impedance voltage divider on the OPA input and a large gain, you can end up magnifying the input offset current and input bias current voltage (I x R) errors.
 
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