Thats hysterical ! I had no idea, I better start checking the dates from now on huh? Glad ya got what ya needed, I was just gonna log in and start a thread because Im "venturing" into microphone elements and how to get them to drive another type of component, any help you have is of course much appreciated. I think it has to do with the mic element charging a very small capacitor which then turns on a small transistor then a bigger component, I dunno.... Jim