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Then you can use the battery to run the first motor, which in turn charges the battery - simple!It's possible, but why would you want to go through such complication just to charge a battery?
Then you can use the battery to run the first motor, which in turn charges the battery - simple!
Without thinking deeply about it, I would make the statement that perpetual motion is possible in a system without losses - e.g. an object spinning in a perfect vacuum, devoid of any particles or fields. Anything less than lossless will eventually stop without some external energy input.
You would also have to take into account losses caused by mechanical friction, which you cannot eliminate.
The closest to perpetual motion that I have seen to this day are "Air Cars." Basically, compressed air "powers" the car, and at the same time spins a generator. The generator powers the on-board air compressor that compresses the air for another cycle.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying; but I think we have different definitions of what perpetual motion is - it is not running a machine from a power source, or desk fan plugged into a power socket would be a perpetual machine, for example.I suppose perpetual motion may be possible if you generate more power than is necessary in order to account for friction, though the friction will also increase.
Go for your life.As I said, it's definitely worth the experimentation.
There won't be mechanical friction in a perfect vacuum devoid of particles & fields - which is likely a bit hard to find in this universe. There is also not much use in a perpetually spinning/moving solid object.
I can imagine that being quite inefficient. Firstly, the moving air has friction losses with its containing ducting & nozzles, as do all moving joints, bearing, etc. The generator and all wiring has conduction losses.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying; but I think we have different definitions of what perpetual motion is - it is not running a machine from a power source, or desk fan plugged into a power socket would be a perpetual machine, for example.
Go for your life.
First you would need to repeal one of the fundamental laws of physics on the conversation of energy. To paraphrase "There's no such thing as a free lunch".You never know--Anyone could suddenly have an epiphany about how to make perpetual motion possible (Think Doc from "Back to the Future" ).
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First you would need to repeal one of the fundamental laws of physics on the conversation of energy. To paraphrase "There's no such thing as a free lunch".
As far as "Doc" goes, fictional characters can obviously do anything they want, not being bound by the laws of the universe.
I don't believe there is a particular reason (at least that we know of) for that empirical law, or any other law of physics. It just the way the universe operates. It may be that a universe designed otherwise would not be stable.I understand the law of the conservation of energy. I have just never quite understood exactly WHY.
I don't believe there is a particular reason (at least that we know of) for that empirical law, or any other law of physics. It just the way the universe operates. It may be that a universe designed otherwise would not be stable.
True. But breaking laws may get you in trouble.That is understandable and may very well be true. However, it is my nature to wonder, if I don't know WHY a law is "true," if it would be possible to find a situation that breaks that law.
You know what they say--Rules are made to be broken
True. But breaking laws may get you in trouble.
then what modifications are needed for the circuit to function.please note i do not want to use an external power source but a battery with some charge which will rotate the first motor and the second motor rotated by first motor charge the same battery
You haven't been paying attention to our posts. In physics there's no such thing as a free lunch (or perpetual motion).then what modifications are needed for the circuit to function.please note i do not want to use an external power source but a battery with some charge which will rotate the first motor and the second motor rotated by first motor charge the same battery
You never know--Anyone could suddenly have an epiphany about how to make perpetual motion possible (Think Doc from "Back to the Future" ).