Looking for an optical odometry chip

[BobW]

I'm looking for what is essentially a one dimensional version of an optical mouse sensor. I need to have a non contact sensor that can detect lateral movement of a target in one dimension only. I could use an optical mouse sensor, and use only one axis output, but all of the current mouse chips I've seen have only a USB output which are very difficult to interface to. Some early chips (eg., the PS/2 versions) had quadrature outputs as well so that they could emulate a standard quadrature encoder, but it appears that those chips are all obsolete and unavailable.
Is anyone aware of a sensor that would work in this application and has an easy to use output interface?

 

[rjenkinsgb]

There is a Chinese supplier here that still has good stock of the Agilent ADNS-3060 serial output mouse sensor:

ADNS-3060 Quote on-line | ADNS-3060 Brand Manufactures | PDF Datasheet | In-Stock

ADNS-3060 are available at Chuangxinda Electronics. Chuangxinda will provide you the global and original ADNS-3060's Stock Information, Reference Price, Package Lot No., etc, Free PDF Datasheet Download.Find online electronic components that we have in stock.

www.cxda.com

The price is under $0.50 each.

Datasheet:

https://datasheet.es/download.php?id=537549

 

[BobW]

How did you find the price? When I click on the link, I don't get any price info unless I submit a price request (which I don't want to do). I doubt that they'd be selling them for $0.50 each unless I order several thousand.

 

[rjenkinsgb]

Sorry, that was a link on Octopart - they list the CXDA price at $0.446, for ten or more devices.

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octopart.com

 

[BobW]

Okay thanks. Giving this some more thought, I think my best bet is to find an old PS2 mouse and salvage the chip and optics from it. Because I'm going to need the optics no matter what.

 

[atferrari]

What software do you intend to use to communicate with the chip?

 

[BobW]

I'll probably use a PIC, so it would be PIC assembly language. But I'm also considering an Arduino, in which case it would be C.

 

[atferrari]

Long ago I managed to read a mouse using the PS2 protocol. Software was written in Assembly for PICs (the old one). If I find all data from my project (could take some time) I could post it here. Are you interested?

 

[ZipZapOuch]

This chip (on a breakout board has been my favorite for gesture control - it is not exactly what you asked but super easy with I2c comma.

Gesture Breakout with APDS-9960

With this RGB and Gesture sensor, you will be able to control a computer, microcontroller, robot, and much more with a simple hand gesture! The usage pins are as follows: VL (optional IR LED power supply), GND (Ground), VCC (3.3V power supply), SDA (I2C data), SCL (I2C clock), INT (interrupt)...

store-usa.arduino.cc

 

[BobW]

Long ago I managed to read a mouse using the PS2 protocol. Software was written in Assembly for PICs (the old one). If I find all data from my project (could take some time) I could post it here. Are you interested?

Yes, if you can find it, it would save me a lot of time.

 

[BobW]

This chip (on a breakout board has been my favorite for gesture control - it is not exactly what you asked but super easy with I2c comma.

Gesture Breakout with APDS-9960

With this RGB and Gesture sensor, you will be able to control a computer, microcontroller, robot, and much more with a simple hand gesture! The usage pins are as follows: VL (optional IR LED power supply), GND (Ground), VCC (3.3V power supply), SDA (I2C data), SCL (I2C clock), INT (interrupt)...

store-usa.arduino.cc

Thanks. I'd been looking at gesture controller chips, but it wasn't clear to me how they worked, and I didn't realize there was a breakout board available. They're cheap enough, so I'll probably order one, and check it out.

 

[atferrari]

Hola BobW

It took time but I found my files (schematic, software (assembly and PS/2 protocol timing diagram). Are you still interested?

 

[BobW]

Yes definitely, it would save me a lot of time. Thanks.

 

[atferrari]

OK BobW. Here we go with the schematic used for developing the code and further tests.

NB the chip is turned ON after the micro has finished the initial chores (initialization) otherwise you could never detect in time the codes emitted by the IC at power on.

 

[atferrari]

BobW

Here is the timing diagram of the PS/2 protocol; doubt you could find any better in the Web.

I used this to write and test the code with a DSO (invaluable help).

Worked basically with little tweaking. That was 13 years ago.

 

[BobW]

Thank you. It's much appreciated.
Do you have any source code that you can post?

 

[atferrari]

Sure, give me time. Busy now.

 

[atferrari]

BobW

The whole thing is attached below as a .zip with 39 compressed files. Checked them with Microsoft AV and reported clean.

Go straight to:

000 OPTICAL MOUSE CONTROLLED BY PIC 03.ASM

While it could seems convoluted to you (or not?), worked for me.

After 13 years there are many details I should refresh and at 77yo it would take longer than in that distant past.

The chip I used came from a from striped mouse. If I find the pin out I will post it later.

 

[atferrari]

ATL A2188 was the chip.
Pin out and datasheet attached. I added another two; run across them when opening several mice.