Household product with offline PSU?

Flyback said:

EU safety regs require them to be water tight if mains voltages are in them....it is a legal requirement.

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I own a toaster and a couple of hair dryers. I suspect that they aren't water tight. The toaster has a bunch of electronics in it for the timers, so it has some sort of power supply inside it.

It's not credible that regulations would ban such appliances.

It is credible that PSU manufacturers would make the smaller ones with no ventilation holes to avoid problems with dust and noise, and that they have accepted that the product is somewhat larger than it would be with fans and ventilation holes but, on balance, is more desirable to the end user.

All mains power supplies have mains in them - and the vast majority have ventilation holes in them.

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Thanks, though for this post, the discussion is talking of offline PSUs for "Household consumer applicances".
These are not permitted to have vent holes in their enclosures.

If you are citing the reference you believe applies, EN61000-3-2, I believe it's the same as, at least the title is identical to IEC 61000-3-2, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) – Part 3-2: Limits – Limits for harmonic current emissions (equipment input current ≤ 16 A per phase), (pdf at link) which has nothing to do with sealing a power supply.

Flyback said:

Thanks, though for this post, the discussion is talking of offline PSUs for "Household consumer applicances".
These are not permitted to have vent holes in their enclosures.

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And you are still talking complete nonsense - don't you have eyes?, aren't you surrounded by home appliances with vent holes?.

#43 post....thanks, yes, EN61000-3-2 concerns harmonics.....other standards detail vents etc.

Actually we are wondering if the standards allows metal outer enclosyure offlien SMPS.
I think standard is EN62368, but dont really know, i have not payed the EU2.4 to go on EVS.EE and find out yet.