Help identifying opposing connector

[HenryKissenGerd]

Can anybody help me figure out what kind of connector mates to this and maybe where to buy it? Trying to save $80 and three days on the Volvo part.


Connector pictures

 

[rjenkinsgb]

It could be one of these, it's difficult to know without exact dimensions..

282080-1 | TE Connectivity, AMP Superseal 1.5 Female 2 Way | RS

uk.rs-online.com

 

[Diver300]

I don't think that it is the superseal range. It's a smaller connector. I'll try to look it up later.

 

[rfranzk]

I would recommend an automotive salvage yard. They might allow you to clip a pigtail with the connector for minimal cost.

 

[Diver300]

I think that is one of these :- https://uk.farnell.com/te-connectivity/1-1670916-1/housing-rcpt-mcon-1-2-contact/dp/2468582

That is has 4 mm spacing on the pins. The Superseal ones are 5 mm between pins. It's difficult to see the size from the photos.

I would agree that salvage yards would be a good place to get one. That is a battery monitoring system sensor, and many makes of car will use the same sensor, and therefore the same connector. The same connector will be used in loads of places in the car.

 

[shortbus=]

Looks more like a Delphi Weatherpac connector to me. We sold them to Volvo when I was still working there. That type of connector has a lot of "look a likes", but they don't interchange, due to the different type of "keying" on them By keying it means different slots, square or round corners, etc.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

I updated the pictures so you can see the measurements and the keying better. it's for a battery monitor sensor (BMS) from a 2nd generation Volvo S60 T5. it looks like the dimensions are about 1.1mm x 0.7mm Inside Diameter with an outside barrel length of 1.6mm, and I just measured the depth of the connector's opening (no picture) by bottoming out a small allen wrench, and it actually came to 1.8mm, so it appears it goes slightly deeper into the sensor than the exposed connector housing would indicate.

I don't think it is the Delphi Weatherpac from looking at photos of the keying. Those TE connectors you guys posted also don't seem to have the right keying and dimensions.

 

[shortbus=]

I don't think it is the Delphi Weatherpac from looking at photos of the keying

I was wrong calling it "weatherpack" should have said Metripack. Since the weatherpack was first out, internally we called the ma by that name on the shop floor. Here is a metripack -

There are so many versions you need to figure out which you have.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

just looked through the metripack website. the keying doesn't match anything on there.

i was at the self service junkyard yesterday. no volvos new enough to have the same battery sensor monitor. the non-self service yards sell all the wiring for scrap copper as they harvest the major components.

 

[Diver300]

just looked through the metripack website. the keying doesn't match anything on there.

i was at the self service junkyard yesterday. no volvos new enough to have the same battery sensor monitor. the non-self service yards sell all the wiring for scrap copper as they harvest the major components.

Have a look at newish cars from other manufacturers. Battery monitoring systems sensors like that aren't made by Volvo, they will be from Hella or Bosch or someone like that, and they will use the same connector for several makes of car.

You could also buy a connector of the correct range, and cut it so that it's keying matches what you need to connect it to.

On the theme of bits for cars coming from component manufacturers, I recently changed the transmission fluid on a Jaguar. I found online videos, but the gearbox was nothing like the ones shown. Then I found that the gearbox was made by Aisin, and I found a video on how to change the transmission fluid in a Volvo with an Aisin gearbox. That was far closer to what I had to do than the videos for the Jaguar.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

hmm...yeah, if i could figure out a way to determine what other makes have the same BMS, that might be the ticket. i don't have the machining equipment or shop to do a serviceable job re-keying a connector. my last resort move is to cut the BMS connector housing away and just use butt connectors on the pins to join wires and run them where they need to go. hate to cut a brand new expensive part up, tho.

 

[Diver300]

I think that modern Jaguars and Landrovers have BMS like that.

You don't need a machine shop. A sharp knife will cut the housings. If you're buying the housings, they probably come in 5s, but the unit cost is tiny so get some spares.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

modern, especially jags and LRs, is what they don't have at the self service yards. it would have to be a cheaper brand where someone is more likely to scrap it than repair it.

 

[Diver300]

How old is the Volvo that the BMS came from?

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

2012 S60 T5 FWD made in Belgium w/ L.H.D., no stop/start

there is one volvo model from 2009 that has it, but cars of any kind from within the last decade are rare in our u pull yards, let alone volvos.

 

[Diver300]

I think that this the correct part:- https://www.oemford.parts/oem-parts/ford-wire-assembly-du2z14s411aza

It's cheaper than $80 but it's still a steep price for a tiny connector.

 

[Diver300]

I should have looked here sooner. This place always seems good value, although the range is limited:-

https://www.automotive-connectors.c...ail-1-2-mm-1-row-cod-a-variant-i-neutral.html

Unfortunately they charge a lot to ship to the USA. They are much more reasonable for shipping to the rest of Europe from Germany.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

Yeah that does look like it has potential. How did you come across that?

 

[Diver300]

Yeah that does look like it has potential. How did you come across that?

I've bought from Deytrade before. They can be really cheap, and with a €5.95 delivery it's a good deal for all but the smallest quantities. For instance a Tyco 282090-1 is €0.76 from them, in 1 off, while the cheapest of RS, Farnell, Mouser and Digikey is £2.47 or about €2.75

Deytrade have a range of connectors already fitted with short wires, which is expensive but makes thing really easy if you don't have the right crimp tool.

Unfortunately for you, they don't seem to be happy to use normal post to the USA at the moment, so it's UPS and $35 ish only.

 

[HenryKissenGerd]

I mean how did you figure out that that ford part was a likely match?