thanks audioguru...it looks like I have the string leds sorted then..... if you don't mind I,d like to do the globe lights next.... I,ll post in a couple days ..I,ll see if I can get the specs of them , I take it it,ll probably be the same sort of setup as the string ones... the globes are 4 single led lights and they each have there own wire all connected to the solar panel, so that's 4 sets of wires going into a solar panel that feeds off 2 AA 1.2v batteries.......... I have 2 sets of these leds... so that's 8 leds altogether and if possible I,d like to run them all from the same board using a 12v power adapter and another lm317 voltage regulator if its possible