Thanks alec_t,
I will have a look at the circuit provided, just got home.
Timescope,
Yes, my bad, I didn't worry to much about drawing the relay or the wiring to it on the schematic properly but I do have it correct on the circuits, seeing as I don't have a LTSpice model for a relay or the 4013 4017 etc I didn't worry to much about it.
I would like to get some models if anyone has them so I can simulate these things?
Dougy,
After I posted that I added 1k resistors across the transistor gates to emitters & it fixed the flashing issue immediately, I tried 10k, 4k7 etc but got to the 1k.
Thanks to everyone for the help, it's really appreciated.
Probably a waste of time & you may laugh but I decided to try to see if the button & the relay contacts were in fact bouncing & causing the issues. I am trying to learn more about things so I thought it was worthwhile.
I tried with the scope but had trouble picking it up so I decided to make a bounce detector circuit out of a 4017 & 10 LEDS.
Basically when you press the button with no contact bounce the Led count should increment from 1to 9 one LED at a time & then another button resets the circuit to zero LED.
So with the circuit Zeroed if you press the button any bounce will show up with say number 6 LED lighting instead of number 1 etc.
It was an eye opener & I guess it was a worthwhile exercise.
With the button tested first every now & again the circuit would pick up contact bounce & would explain the intermittent misfires I was having using the button.
With the Relay connected to the circuit & tested it showed exactly why I have had so much trouble.
With the circuit zeroed & then the relay was activated sometimes LED 3 would light & then LED 6 then 9, basically all over the place & explains a lot.
I know that this is only a basic test & more than likely I should & would be better to have tested a time constant of the worse bounce senario instead of the number of bounces to overcome the bounce issue & the then apply a time constant debounce circuit suitable for this.
But it did show the issue & as yet I am not sure how to set something up to test a time constant & haven't got anything to see it on screen.
Any Idea's?
My relays didn't turn up today, it will be Friday they say now but I did see a solid state relay in the shop so I picked it up to try it out & PRESTO all the circuits work perfectly now I have three & maybe four circuits with alec_t's new modded one.
There is no missfires of any kind with the SSR----PERFECT!
I will now try to work out how these circuits work, Timescope gave me an example of how his works but i'll have a look at the others & see if I can work them out--Don't hold your breath
Thanks Again it's much appreciated.
Cheers