or raise the limit, and just cut and paste inside code tags! not sure i would go to the trouble of pdf and messing about for the particular thread i referred to, maybe there is a reason its 10,000 or maybe it was just an arbutary number or default setting. All i am asking, is there a reason we cant have more characters when posting code in tags. If we cant then ok i look at other option's, but maybe EM comes back and say's, its a default setting in the software and no problem to double it! after all they dont get charged by the character, if they do then they can host on one my servers,that has unlimited bandwidth and space and is based on a fast connection in the states.