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    Hi!

    I want to build an ESR meter ...first of all i would like to know if you think
    it's a useful tool and better than capacitometer on checking defected
    capacitors?

    second thing... i need heeelp! i know the basic principles of the way it
    works, but my knowledge aren't enough to design one!

    i prefer to use a wheatstone bridge, i have seen many schematics
    and i think it's more easy to build it that way...i also prefer to use
    the tl084 op-amps which i already have and i can buy a galvanometer
    or use my analog multimeter to read my results! although i would like to listen
    any other opinions on my design as long as it has nothing to do with microcontrolers! i don't have knowledge on such things...i'd like my design to be simple and cost effective and above all to do its job!

    ready "examples" are acceptable...

    Thanks in advance everyone willing to help me.
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    I designed a simple ESR meter.

    I'll post the circuit if you wish.
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    Yes please do!
    if it fits my needs i would like the PCB too!
    it will be the first time i'm going to etch a PCB.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiz115
    Hi!

    I want to build an ESR meter ...first of all i would like to know if you think
    it's a useful tool and better than capacitometer on checking defected
    capacitors?
    It's almost essential these days, the major cause of faults is low ESR capacitors - with an ESR meter you can easily, and quickly, identify these while still in circuit (mostly!).


    second thing... i need heeelp! i know the basic principles of the way it
    works, but my knowledge aren't enough to design one!

    i prefer to use a wheatstone bridge, i have seen many schematics
    and i think it's more easy to build it that way
    The designs I've seen (and the one I built) don't use a wheatstone bridge, just a simple potential divider. It's also pretty essential that you do the measurements at 100KHz - which is the standard frequency for ESR testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin
    The designs I've seen (and the one I built) don't use a wheatstone bridge, just a simple potential divider. It's also pretty essential that you do the measurements at 100KHz - which is the standard frequency for ESR testing.
    that is interesting... if it works good and makes my design more simple
    i would like something like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiz115
    that is interesting... if it works good and makes my design more simple
    i would like something like that!
    PM me your email address and I'll send you a PDF conversion of the original magazine article.
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    you got pm...

    i'm still interested on any advices if someone has to add something
    i'm all ears and eyes!

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    hi again...

    i have ended up with 2 esr schematics... i'll choose the one which
    i can more easily source components and costs less for me...
    but before that i don't know how to make them PCB...

    probably i'll use PCBexpress does anyone has time to correct
    my try on the design i'm going to build?!

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    nobody wants to say something?
    if someone has PCB of an ESR meter i'm still interested.

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    Perhaps you should design it yourself?

    This is your project remember.

    I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong.

    Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help,
    if I know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiz115
    i have ended up with 2 esr schematics... i'll choose the one which
    i can more easily source components and costs less for me...
    but before that i don't know how to make them PCB...
    Can you post the designs? I'd be interested in taking a look at them.

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    I would assume it's copyrighted.

    Although I would think it's all right as one diagram probably qualifies as fair dealing.

    I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong.

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    I have found many but some of the designs probably are copyrighted and i don't know which one i can post and which i can't.


    recently i tried to convert one of them into PCB... it's a improvement some guy did...based on a design which belongs to Nuova Elettronica.

    http://www.nuovaelettronica.it/it/ki...icoli_id=16281


    (This is the improvement and not the original which exists on an other forum. The original can also be found online)





    and this is my unfinished try on Eagle to convert the above into schematic and then PCB.

    it's my first time on Eagle it's total mess right? can someone give me instructions what to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljcox
    I designed a simple ESR meter.

    I'll post the circuit if you wish.
    Sorry, I forgot to post my circuit. Here it is. The .pdf includes a circuit description.

    I made it on a prototyping PCB that I purchased from JayCar.
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    Thank you ljcox!
    guys any comments/advices on my try with Eagle?

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