I thought I would post a few things that may seem rather interesting about hydrogen and HHO gas . The real truths, not the enviro - overunity nutter versions.
These are some pictures of my actual hydrogen gas torch.
Any how you can get one too!
All it is is a standard oxygen / propane torch set up. The fuel regulators are standard off the shelf gas regulators with the acetylene/propane/natural gas compatible diaphragms. The hose is a standard type T multi fuel oxy/fuel hose.
The torch nozzle is a standard oxy/propane cutting torch type. But a oxy/Acetylene nozzle works with hydrogen as well.
As you can see the hydrogen tank is from praxair distribution. That means anyone can go in and rent one too! Its about $28 a year for the lease on the tank and around $25 - $30 for a refill exchange.
However as you can see in the pictures the hydrogen tank is at around 1800 PSI, (full is 2000 - 2400 typically) so it needs a high pressure regulator to bring it down to a safe level that a torch system uses. I just have the high pressure regulator output set up with a standard propane coupler so it can be used with the torch set without any regulator change over.
Using hydrogen for a cutting torch is super! You do not need the oxygen gas mix turned on for the preheat flame. The flame itself doesn't heat up metal to the glowing point, yet when you pull the cutting trigger you get a super hot jet right down the center of the torch flame and that starts cutting within seconds.
Plus even without the oxygen mix going to the preheat flame it is incredible difficult to blow out! propane and acetylene running at strait fuel only can be blown out with a good breath. Hydrogen wont do that!
So as you may guess that means very little fuel is needed to keep the torch going and no oxygen from your tank is even being used unless your actually cutting.
Every picture has a hydrogen flame in it but the one is what you would normally see in day light, nearly Nothing!
Also those pictures with my own hand in them are with my skin under 1/2 inch way from the flame and I can assure you that until you actually touch it there is almost no heat radiating from it!
And when you do touch it its feels hot and moist, more like a steam jet. It will burn you within a second or two but its not anywhere near the intensity of a regular cutting torch flame.
An actual acetylene or propane flame at that distance is very hot and will take the skin right off if I touched it for the same length of time that I can be in contact with hydrogen flame.
I just though you'd like to see some truthful uses and actual pictures of hydrogen in a real life application.
And yes I do actually run small lawn and garden engines off of hydrogen and oxygen too! (The real life HHO comes from a pair of tanks) And no, they do not put out more power that what goes into them!
In fact without some fair engine modifications they cant even put out as much power as when running on standard gasoline!
But double the compression, change the ignition timing curves, and get a bigger and more aggressive cam profile, and Wow! They can blow themselves apart with the actual power they then can produce!
that is, they can split the cast aluminum heads, crack pistons, and crush their own connecting rods!
So it your going to try running the real HHO gas, beef up your engine first or it will be a big disappointment power wise and an expensive rebuild if you don't do it right!
I hope this helps inspire and enlighten some of you!
These are some pictures of my actual hydrogen gas torch.
Any how you can get one too!
All it is is a standard oxygen / propane torch set up. The fuel regulators are standard off the shelf gas regulators with the acetylene/propane/natural gas compatible diaphragms. The hose is a standard type T multi fuel oxy/fuel hose.
The torch nozzle is a standard oxy/propane cutting torch type. But a oxy/Acetylene nozzle works with hydrogen as well.
As you can see the hydrogen tank is from praxair distribution. That means anyone can go in and rent one too! Its about $28 a year for the lease on the tank and around $25 - $30 for a refill exchange.
However as you can see in the pictures the hydrogen tank is at around 1800 PSI, (full is 2000 - 2400 typically) so it needs a high pressure regulator to bring it down to a safe level that a torch system uses. I just have the high pressure regulator output set up with a standard propane coupler so it can be used with the torch set without any regulator change over.
Using hydrogen for a cutting torch is super! You do not need the oxygen gas mix turned on for the preheat flame. The flame itself doesn't heat up metal to the glowing point, yet when you pull the cutting trigger you get a super hot jet right down the center of the torch flame and that starts cutting within seconds.
Plus even without the oxygen mix going to the preheat flame it is incredible difficult to blow out! propane and acetylene running at strait fuel only can be blown out with a good breath. Hydrogen wont do that!
So as you may guess that means very little fuel is needed to keep the torch going and no oxygen from your tank is even being used unless your actually cutting.
Every picture has a hydrogen flame in it but the one is what you would normally see in day light, nearly Nothing!
Also those pictures with my own hand in them are with my skin under 1/2 inch way from the flame and I can assure you that until you actually touch it there is almost no heat radiating from it!
And when you do touch it its feels hot and moist, more like a steam jet. It will burn you within a second or two but its not anywhere near the intensity of a regular cutting torch flame.
An actual acetylene or propane flame at that distance is very hot and will take the skin right off if I touched it for the same length of time that I can be in contact with hydrogen flame.
I just though you'd like to see some truthful uses and actual pictures of hydrogen in a real life application.
And yes I do actually run small lawn and garden engines off of hydrogen and oxygen too! (The real life HHO comes from a pair of tanks) And no, they do not put out more power that what goes into them!
In fact without some fair engine modifications they cant even put out as much power as when running on standard gasoline!
But double the compression, change the ignition timing curves, and get a bigger and more aggressive cam profile, and Wow! They can blow themselves apart with the actual power they then can produce!
that is, they can split the cast aluminum heads, crack pistons, and crush their own connecting rods!
So it your going to try running the real HHO gas, beef up your engine first or it will be a big disappointment power wise and an expensive rebuild if you don't do it right!
I hope this helps inspire and enlighten some of you!