PIC programer

A PICkit2 and Junebug are way better than the winpic800. When i googled the winpic800 all I got were failure stories

As for AVR I hear that the dragon is not bad.

silvarblade said:

is a winpic800 better than a junebug or a pickit2?all will be cloned i am talking about first choice pics and than avrs.?

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You're comparing software with hardware. Your comparison makes no sense.

Winpic800 is programmer software for an ancient Tait-style PIC programmer.

PICkit 2 is a programmer/debugger (hardware). Junebug is a PICkit 2 compatible programmer/debugger (hardware). Both are operated by the MPLAB IDE software.

I googled Winpic800 and that was all I got out of it.

Krumlink said:

I googled Winpic800 and that was all I got out of it.

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Well, I don't think the Tait is much used anymore. It connected to the parallel port of the PC and programmed the PIC in LVP mode (if I've googled correctly).

Winpic800 is one version of software used to program PICs with it.

As for AVR I hear that the dragon is not bad.

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The AVR Dragon is excellent. IMHO it's the best programmer/debugger there is for newer model AVR's. If you need to work with older model chips you'll need an STK-500 or one of the other programmers though. Dragon support for older chips is nonexistent.

I think it is better to use a pickit2 or a clone of that

futz said:

Well, I don't think the Tait is much used anymore. It connected to the parallel port of the PC and programmed the PIC in LVP mode (if I've googled correctly).

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No, the standard David Tait programmer was an HV programmer, and is the one most non-processor PIC programmers are based on.