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3v0 said:Most people who have never used a decent cad program get bent out of shape when they first try. Eagle is no different.
Pommie said:Well, I'm a poor retiree and I don't steal software. We can all pirate software and if you are that way inclined then Eagle is not for you.
Maybe that was a little harsh but, you should bear in mind that a lot of hobbyist use what they are legally allowed. I really think that the producers of eagle deserve a medal. Other companies have to have reduced their price because of it.
BTW, what is the cost of comparable software?
Mike.
dknguyen said:..they asked $10k. So I went and ripped it off because that's just ridiculous. I had been willing to pay up to $2k for the thing but I guess that wasn't good enough for them.
HerbertMunch said:Hi hans,
you shouldnt really include your plain-text email address in a forum! Its a sure way to end up with a massive dollop of spam!
Ambient said:While we are on the topic of Eagle...How do I end a wire in the schematic without having to click the wire icon again? That is the only thing that I find annoying in Eagle.
3v0 said:This logic is so wrong. If you wanted a new car and it was more then you wanted to spend would you steal it too? What about overpriced candy bars?
Pommie said:Herbert, you can copy whole pages!! And, I use Autocad and could never imagine doing a PCB with it. Practice with Eagle.
dknguyen said:Except that the price of the software is not for it's material cost. It's geared towards people who make money off the software.
HerbertMunch said:Im fully aware of how to move groups. I cannot seem to copy a group though As i said before, After i have grouped some objects, i cannot utilise the copy command. It says "left click to select an object to copy" NO STUPID EAGLE, I WANT TO RIGHT CLICK!!!!!
I havent looked at the latest version yet, is it in this version that you can copy multiple objects?
Thanks.
chris
HerbertMunch said:Ok nice one.
Is it in this version that i can copy multiple objects?
aussiepoof said:I too hate Eagle... the tutorials at Sparkfun help, but still it's got to be the world's worst user interface.
I find ExpressPCB's UI fantastically easy and use it despite the proprietary nature of the storage format (i.e. not Gerber) I did a careful analysis of pricing from various Gerber compatible PCB shops vs ExpressPCB and couldn't find a compelling price difference that warranted the pain of learning Eagle.
My productivity in ExpressPCB outweighs any price difference anyway. I am also able to do single-sided prototype PCB's with it which is very useful.
Best PCB CAD I ever used was the old Protel on Windoze 3.1 Of course since Altium bought them they no longer provide the low-end product (i.e. basic PCB Schematic Capture+Layout) for a reasonable price... sigh.
P.
Using different layers doesn't help, because vias will be auto inserted. If you know a way, please speak up.John
Ambient said:While we are on the topic of Eagle...How do I end a wire in the schematic without having to click the wire icon again? That is the only thing that I find annoying in Eagle.