But Watkykjy1 claimed to have run a small electric car that his daughter drove around for days and days on end on the same battery while only being charged from the enviroment using this device.
Yeah and so did Tilley. And another hundred frauds before him. It's called being a "shill". The term "shill" is the first 2 customers hanging around the dude selling fake Rolexes saying "holy crap this is a steal! I know all about Rolexes, and this guy actually has real ones and doesn't even know it!" And the next guy's all "Look, can you hold off on selling the other one until I come back with more money?" "Nope, this fellow (sees you) just walked up". "Look, forget the $200. I'll be back in 5 minutes with $300! It's worth $500 easy!" "OK, hey you, if YOU give me $200 before the other guy gets back from the ATM, this fine watch is yours!" The joke is of course that both these guys work for the seller.
The problem is when people grossly underestimate the ability to shill, thinking they'd be obvious like infomercial people. No, in modern frauds, you sign up under a different screen name or pay somebody $50 to do this:
"i gotta say, i was really skeptical, but tried this:
1992 Ford Thundercougarfalconbird, never got over 17 mpg
added the official HHO system, made NO other changes, got 27 mpg the first tank- 59% increase! Didn't believe it, ran another tank, got 26 mpg. I'm consistently seeing 25mpg-28mpg"
Then you change styles- use different punctuation, emphasis, sentence structure, capitalization, more importantly change the "way of thinking"... like the next guy you're going to play you pretend by putting up meticulous data (all fictitious). And claim to have used a calibrated fuel meter. End with "I don't claim to know
how it works, but the numbers most definitely show that it
does work." Another guy you play claims to have met the first 2 guys. It's quite easy to sound like a different person.
These msg boards are quite literally
packed with shills. You have to rely on some basic science here- you can't get energy for free. And, if there WAS some way to do it, you wouldn't have to sell plans or devices on the Internet. Go to GE or Ford and demonstrate anything demonstrable and make millions. Why don't they? Well, they have old, overused explanations- "uhh, we just want to help people not a big company", "they won't BELIEVE us" (bull, engineers and scientists can readily believe any
repeatable effect regardless of whether it agrees with prior belief. Walk up, put it on the table for real to be studied by REAL people, get support right there), "it's a secret, so we're not selling them but taking investments" (uhh yeah... there is still a way to patent things), "there's a big oil conspiracy keeping it down" (which is bull, car mfgs are constantly pressured by the govt for better fuel economy and he who can make a more efficient
practical car, even by a few %, by minor modifications can be rich easy).