HerbertMunch said:I must be in the other half of uk men!
I'm not sure armchair pundits realize how much their bravery as people who have no intention or fitness for entering combat themselves is disrespectful to real soldiers. Put up or shut up.HiTech said:Last time I looked, I didn't see our navy towing your boats into the Gulf, nor were your soldiers stuffed into the belly of a C5 Galaxy and parachuted into urban front lines.
Hank Fletcher said:I'm not sure armchair pundits realize how much their bravery as people who have no intention or fitness for entering combat themselves is disrespectful to real soldiers. Put up or shut up.
I mean the likes of Mitt Romney ought to be willing to commit either themselves or their sons to the same peril that they assume they have the right to commit other people's sons. I have no respect for the perpetuation of this unspoken class system in the U.S. that continues to take advantage of young and underprivileged people for the sake of rich, lazy, and cowardly people.Thunderchild said:you mean run off to war for somebody elses profits?
Thunderchild said:well watch farenheit 9/11 the manual on how wars make money, thats all this is about
phalanx said:I already have my 52" television so what does this study mean to me?
Ambient said:They should evacuate all the civilians and nuke whatever is left. Problem solved.
HiTech said:Oh puuhleez - what a silly, baseless statement, further disgraced by your poor grammar... shame on you, especially from someone who lives in a region known the world over for its proper English! "You guys" didn't run off to war because of Bush and his personal agenda, it's a coalition, just like it was in Desert Storm. Go yell at Blair and Parliament if you disagree with the involvement. Last time I looked, I didn't see our navy towing your boats into the Gulf, nor were your soldiers stuffed into the belly of a C5 Galaxy and parachuted into urban front lines.
To balance it out, I did my best to trivialize your "Is there a god?" debate.Hero999 said:It seems that we can't have a light hearted conversation here before it turns to a super serious debate.
Is this directed at me? If so I don't follow you completely. Besides, it's a volunteer military here in the states. Given the situation of world affairs over the past decade and a half, one should've weighed the risks of battle engagement before joining the military. As for Canada, the same goes-- we didn't throw a rope around you and drag you along. Somewhere in the mix, your gov. signed on. This isn't a slam towards any soldier battling in the fields or air regardless of what nation they are from. My point is to clarify that if anyone (Thunderchild in this case) should look to their own gov. offiicials first for getting involved before placing the whole blame on one man (Pres. Bush).Hank Fletcher said:I'm not sure armchair pundits realize how much their bravery as people who have no intention or fitness for entering combat themselves is disrespectful to real soldiers. Put up or shut up.
If I told you that everyone around you is jumping off of cliffs, would you do it? If I informed you that your neighbor was maliciously plotting against you would you go off half cocked and turn militant without researching the issue yourself? Hell, I live here and I don't believe some of the stories and facts that our high-end law enforcement agencies spew forth. You chaps should've done some homework for yourselves first. Pay up!Thunderchild said:by the way a recent news hit over on our side of the pond:
A muslim pilot was arrested WE arrested him because the FBI (america) told us to because he trained the 9/11 attackers, WE held him for 4 months in prison while the FBI ran around looking for the evidence they said they had already but hadn't even collected yet. The man gets proven inocent and now has the right to claim millions in compensation, which goverment do you think is going to end up compensating him ?
Yes, it is. You should try to follow me, as completely as possible. You obviously don't have the capacity for reasoning things of this complexity and sensitivity yourself. If people only joined the army based on your reasoning (e.g. when they're not needed), only cowards would join the army.HiTech said:Is this directed at me? If so I don't follow you completely. Besides, it's a volunteer military here in the states. Given the situation of world affairs over the past decade and a half, one should've weighed the risks of battle engagement before joining the military.
To the contrary, it is a slam, but I'm sure this isn't your intention, but rather just a result of your own ignorance regarding the details of your opinion. Your attitude is also grossly disrespectful to brave veterans who have volunteered to risk their lives in the interest of ending global suffering. Many of these volunteers, such as Canadian soldiers in WWII as well as Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan today, volunteered not because there was an immediate threat to themselves, their community, or their nation, but rather they volunteered in the interest of ending suffering for people who are least capable of defending themselves.This isn't a slam towards any soldier battling in the fields or air regardless of what nation they are from.
Unlike the U.S., in Canada the military carries out missions based on the directives and intentions of the Canadian public. Our government decides to involve our nation in conflicts based on the expectation that each conflict will be resolved in a timely manner, and with the best possible outcome for all parties.As for Canada, the same goes-- we didn't throw a rope around you and drag you along. Somewhere in the mix, your gov. signed on... My point is to clarify that if anyone (Thunderchild in this case) should look to their own gov. offiicials first for getting involved before placing the whole blame on one man (Pres. Bush).
HiTech said:If I told you that everyone around you is jumping off of cliffs, would you do it? If I informed you that your neighbor was maliciously plotting against you would you go off half cocked and turn militant without researching the issue yourself? Hell, I live here and I don't believe some of the stories and facts that our high-end law enforcement agencies spew forth. You chaps should've done some homework for yourselves first. Pay up!
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