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which antivirus is the best for pc...?

Discussion in 'Computers and Networks' started by paetoni, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. paetoni

    paetoni New Member

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    which antivirus is the best for pc...? I'm using Norton 2012 right now.
     
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  2. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

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    The very best I have found to be commonsense.exe which when coupled with other software works quite well. Seriously, my opinion is the software that works best for the end user and their Internet Surfing Habits as well as their Email Volume and how they treat that volume. Personally I use the MS Security Suite at home on all my systems as well as my wife's system. This works well for us and our situation. When I was more active with this sort of stuff and reading up more on it every month every AV software review listed something else over the month before. It just got old after awhile and for the most part was BS.

    Just My Take
    Ron
     
  3. Nigel Goodwin

    Nigel Goodwin Super Moderator Most Helpful Member

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    I would strongly recommend Norton - I use Norton 360, it's been absolutely excellent and doesn't seem to cause any loss of speed.

    For a free alternative, MicroSoft Security Esentials is a good option.
     
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    I once had Avira, but now I don't have any antivirus.

    I connect through OpenDNS and have the additional plugin "MyWOT": This signals shady websites with a security alert that prevents you from going in there.

    I installed ZoneAlarm as a firewall, and have MalwareBytes.

    I share more documentation and PDFs than executables.

    I read my mail through Mozilla Thunderbird, and set it to read mails in plain-text. This means no "HTML" stuff, etc. It makes phishing and that kind of things obvious.

    I have several filters: Mails from Facebook go to a certain folder, etc. Plus I have several e-mail adresses. Some forward to a "dump" where there's a lot of stuff, and some more "specialized".

    I don't have a DVD-Drive (Actually, I have it, but I don't use it).. And I don't plug flash drives, things get sent to me, or a link gets sent to me, and it's mostly PDF or text.
     
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    Reloadron Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

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    That last item brings up something of interest that runs with my suggestion of "commonsense.exe". I receive and need to read frequent security bulletins. I have told this story in the forums before. About a year ago They (DoD and DoE) took CD disk and made a fancy label indicating the disk contained sensitive secure and classified information. The disk in reality were rigged to "phone home" if placed in any system with Internet access. The disk were then scattered about in certain areas made to look as if they were lost. Something like 90% of the found disk were actually inserted into secure systems. The same was done with thumb drives. Go figure how many people would pick a disk up off the street and shove it into a machine purely out of curiosity without even thinking. People really are that stupid. Go figure.

    Ron
     
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    Unfortunately, I haven't had as good of luck with Norton. It has allowed viruses in on two separate occasions now. In the first instance, I had to reformat my HDD and re-install everything to be rid of the bug. In the second instance, a trojan went completely undetected, despite my daily updated virus signatures and weekly full-system scans. It was found during a scan with Avast after I removed the HDD due to a non-virus related hardware issue (the motherboard was damaged by an ESD event to a USB cable). I'm not sure I'm going to continue to trust Norton.
     
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    I've been in IT for a long time, work for a very large Corporation and I've never heard of that. Probably had a failure at the same time but to pin it on software imho would be a stretch. I'm curious though... :p
     
  9. Nigel Goodwin

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    You're rather assuming it was really a virus, and not just a false alarm from Avast - I'm also with gabeNC, ESD from USB sounds extremely unlikely.
     
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    I'm not pinning the failure of the system on software. Trust me, it was the 1/4" lightning bolt from my finger to the end of the USB cable as I reached for my calculator, which was lying next to the cable on the tabletop. My PC was fine until that event, then the problems started.

    At first, I would press the power button and the system power would come on for about 3-5 seconds, then turn off. Sometimes it would come back on by itself after a few seconds, then shut off again. I would repeat this 3 - 5 times (oftentimes cycling the main power by using the power switch on the back of the PC) and then it would come on and stay on. One time it took 8 tries to get the PC to stay on. A few times, during what should have been the BIOS splash screen, it was scrambled, unreadable garbage. Not just gibberish, but rather what appeared to be a video signal with no sync. The system would lock up at that point, requiring another boot attempt. When the system would finally boot, it would seem to act fairly normal, with the exception that sometimes a "click" was heard from within the PC and the HDD would spin down and then spin back up. At this point, the system would sometimes hang, other times not.

    On the last time I was able to boot the system, Norton indicated my virus signatures were out of date by 365,000+ days and I was unable connect to the server at Symantec to download new virus signatures. It was at that time I turned the system off for the final time, removed the HDD, had it scanned for viruses (by an IT guy here at work) and checked for damaged files and data loss. Avast found what it reported was a trojan during the scan. The file was removed and the drive re-scanned, with no indication of the trojan remaining. It's entirely possible that this instance was a false positive, but the earlier instance certainly wasn't. That is, unless a false positive displays a dark green screen with black text that says "YOU ARE INFECTED" at boot up and requires an HDD re-format and OS re-install to remove the problem.

    I have since bought a new PC with an Asus P8H61-M motherboard with an Intel CPU, 4GB ram, a 500GB HDD and Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

    @paetoni -- Sorry for seemingly hijacking your thread, but I got the feeling that Nigel and gabeNC were interested in the details of my story.
     
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    The antivirus industry is mostly just marketing nowadays. Microsoft Security Essentials (free if you have a genuine copy of Windows) and the Windows Firewall is a perfectly sufficient combination.

    If you are going to pay money for antivirus the only thing worth comparing is the heuristic engine, even then some of the free ones are among the best available.
     
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    The antivirus industry is mostly just marketing nowadays. Microsoft Security Essentials (free if you have a genuine copy of Windows) and the Windows Firewall is a perfectly sufficient combination.

    If you are going to pay money for antivirus the only thing worth comparing is the heuristic engine, even then some of the free ones are among the best available.
     
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    I'm with you 100% edeca, I've used only Security Essentials for Vista, and later on in XP's life it was known as 'Windows Defender' The only virus I ended up getting in that time is one in which even the most sophisticated anti-virus software wouldn't have been able to prevent because it was stupid user syndrome (myself) that ran that one. I let my guard down at a bad moment.
     
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    Update: My sister used my computer today. I don't need to tell you what happened.

    I've been using this computer for several years, and it has been pure all these years. Not anymore. Some sites I can't even access, I can't even install an antivirus or log to an antivirus website (every other site works fine).

    Furthermore, I've been infected with trojans and dialers, etc.. And the ones I got have an SMTP engine which means that I could be sending SPAM without knowing so. Which means I have to change the passwords of my e-mail addresses, since I'm using Thunderbird. Possibly format everything and start off pure again. But it's very very difficult to do.

    Everything is falling apart :)

    Computers need to come with a sticky: Keep out of reach of children and women.
     
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    I wouldn't say that at all Jugurtha, my wife is fine with computers.

    It's not that difficult to clean a machine even when the computer has gotten to that point, you need to download yourself a Linux Live CD That has all the anti virus stuff on it to clean the machine out, there's no way to do it from the native OS once it's gotten to that point.
     
  16. Jugurtha

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    Well then, Sceadwian .. You're married to Angelina Jolie in Hackers ! Or Carrie-Anne Moss in The Matrix (Trinity) :)

    The damage is contained, now. I don't mind being infected by a really smart virus. It bothers me being infected by a stupid one, and it bothers me when you see the virus files but the Antivirus (Avira & AVG) just don't see it. :) !! It should be the other way around !
     
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    I would suggest Norton or Microsoft antivirus as they give your pc a best protection from the possible virus, or malicious malware attacks. You can have a free demo version available on the net for both of them and if you are satisfied after the use you can go for purchasing it. :)
     
  18. Jugurtha

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    Hi,

    One more thing .. I agree with what edeca said: I mean, looking at the boxes of Antivirus software, you read so much lies. Everyone is offering "ultimate" protection, or "complete protection" or "total protection". Somebody should sue these companies on the basis of false advertising. There is no such thing as total protection.

    Mudge (from the the L0pht, the group of hackers who testified before Congress) who is now working for the Department of Defence (and subsequently, for Intelligence agencies) said in a talk (I think it was a ShmooCon) that many times, a target's vulnerability is the ANTIVIRUS itself. He said that often times, a target (foreign, for the most part) has a somehow secure infrastructure, and they don't find a way in.. Until they find an antivirus listening on a port for updates, and that's their way in. They exploit this.

    You are owned by the very software claiming it prevents others from owning you. That's epic.

    So, if you have an antivirus but you have bad practices on the net or on your computer, then you're basically helpless. If you are receiving your mail in HTML and clicking on the links thinking that what's appearing as a "Microsoft link" is "REALLY" a Microsoft link, then no "protection software" can protect you. If you don't know what an exploit is, what a vulnerability is, then no software can protect you. If you think that trojan horses execute themselves, then you haven't read the Illiade and don't even get the pun of naming these programs "trojan horses" (i.e - In the Illiade, gullible people allowed the horse in the City.. and if you're gullible, no software can help you).

    If you don't know what cookies are, if you browse sites which you don't really know while you're logged on Facebook.. Then don't get amazed people get your personal information (ALWAYS log off Facebook when you browse sites you don't really know).


    If you browse the web and do searches on Google while you're logged in Google .. Don't get amazed to see ads with the very keywords you typed in your search queries (I never search while I'm logged in Google/Youtube). I don't have proof, but I'm pretty sure Google & Hotmail grep my messages to display ads. Either this, or they have a crystal ball and I don't see people in Redmond having crystal balls.
     
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    I would like to recommend E-scan because i'm using this antivirus presently for my pc and satisfied with the working of this antivirus.
     

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