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Problem with a Loom!

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by wizard, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. ericgibbs

    ericgibbs Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

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    hi xanadunow,

    Are you directly involved with or representing the sack manufacturer concerning this project or are you just trying to answer
    the opening posters thread made by 'Wizard'.?:)
     
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  2. xanadunow

    xanadunow New Member

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    no connection

    I am in Oz ericgibbs. Wizard is in the US.. I am just passionate to determin resonably cheap and workable solution. Is it not what this forum is all about?

    Regards,
    xanadunow
     
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  3. ericgibbs

    ericgibbs Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

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    hi xanadunow,
    Its not a criticism, its just the way your posts are written mislead me into thinking you were actually making decisions on the way the project would be done.

    I agree, the forum is an excellent venue for developing ideas and suggestions.:)
     
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  5. Ubergeek63

    Ubergeek63 Well-Known Member

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    I have to say no. The fabric grows by some multiple of 1-2" per second. There are 640x 480 pixels in a frame. There are 3 bytes to process per pixel. The contrast is lousy. The background level is inconsistent.

    In short you are proposing a tremendously complicated solution to something that would be easy if they would submit to changing batteries a few times a year.

    Dan
     
  6. xanadunow

    xanadunow New Member

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    Eric

    Hi Eric,

    You are the 2nd person to "pick me" up on that. I guess, I am coming to strong in my beliefs (or to stupid).

    As naive as it may sound, I do trust and believe in the end result. I did arrive on this forum with a single (not answered as yet - question). I felt that I do owe something to the forum and have decided to share my experience, knowing - that being in the need of your help - does put me in debt I can only repay by offering my own experience I can share - in kind.

    Please, do correct me - if I am wrong.

    I will say it again, I have no connections - just the desire to find the solution.

    Regards,
    xanadunow
     
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  7. xanadunow

    xanadunow New Member

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    Dan

    OK Dan, I do accept it. You did trash that idea for me when I felt it may be the best. OK, back to the drawing board then, and - your batterries :)

    Regards,
    xanadunow
     
  8. Ubergeek63

    Ubergeek63 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry... I have designed a few video displays and we are always looking to back off on the bandwidth. All the customer "knows" is "more is better".

    Dan
     
  9. xanadunow

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    I do feel very comfortably with your assessment Dan, I did get lost following my arrival at the "xy" frame, having the hope only that it could be "processed" within the 1 sec of time space, but not knowing the exact method of doing it, and - seeing the pitfalls of my luminance sampling I did hope that some of you guys can "jump in" and improve on this approach with a conceivable outcome.

    Regards,
    xanadunow
     
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  10. Ubergeek63

    Ubergeek63 Well-Known Member

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    I am not even sure off hand how long it would take on a PC.

    An actual machine vision system has both the power and customization for it. Stuff like high contrast video with just enough resolution to allow reliable detection. We are assuming a low cost solution with no overkill needed.

    Dan
     
  11. xanadunow

    xanadunow New Member

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    the pattern

    I was thinking more of recognising the difference between the correct pattern:

    101010101010
    010101010101
    101010101010
    010101010101

    against the pattern with one string missing:

    101010101010
    010101010101
    010101010101
    101010101010

    Each "0" represents here a "visible" horizontal string overlapped by a visible "1" vertical string.

    With a missing string, the "vertical" overlap will capture not one but 2 horizontal strings and this is all I would like to detect to make the decision.

    In fact, any deviation from the original pattern as at the very top, should stop the line. This would cover the case when more than one of the 4 horizontal strings is missing or has ended.

    I am just not sure how to implement it Dan..

    Regards,
    xanadunow
     
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