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Old 2nd January 2006, 01:38 PM   (permalink)
Default Re: pulser for 15Hz to 30KHz - from a zapper circuit

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Dear Friends

I'm trying a research for homeophatic medicine...

I need to modify a zapper circuit (like the Hulda Clark Zapper) to get two differente frequencies. One switch to make the pulse to 15Hz and the other to 30.000Hz.

I already got the zapper schematic:

http://www.zapperlab.com/ZapSchematic.gif

But I'm to newbie to understand what do I need to change for get the two frequencies, because this circuit only go to 30.000Hz.

Thanks in advance

Zaanor

Hi zaanor (or whoever who knows the answer) !

I've heard about this 30KHz circuit designed to kill some bacterias of your organism. I havent read too much about this theme, but I'd like to know why you need different frequencies, 15 and 30 KHz.

Thanksī

pd: My boss has probed the circuit and it really works !!!
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Old 2nd January 2006, 03:46 PM   (permalink)
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What works? The circuit or the therapy?

Perhaps you are confusing the simple zapper with an expensive Ultra-sound therapy machine that is used by real doctors. Ultra-sound sends waves of energy deep into tissues and vibrates the tissues at the same 30kHz frequency. I suppose that the friction of vibration builds heat in the tissues. Then the body feels the heat and sends white blood cells and stuff to heal the problem.

I don't think that the small zap voltage would penetrate deep enough.
People before posted the same circuit but with a step-up transformer on its output for a really strong zap.
Other people posted the same circuit with an LED that would light and blink. It gave good results even though its zapper part of the circuit wasn't powered.

I also don't think that a zap at 15Hz would do anything. Most likely you want to pulse the 30kHz at a 15Hz rate, using a 15Hz 555 circuit to gate another 30kHz 555 circuit on and off. :lol:
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Old 2nd January 2006, 04:32 PM   (permalink)
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What works? The circuit or the therapy?

Perhaps you are confusing the simple zapper with an expensive Ultra-sound therapy machine that is used by real doctors. Ultra-sound sends waves of energy deep into tissues and vibrates the tissues at the same 30kHz frequency. I suppose that the friction of vibration builds heat in the tissues. Then the body feels the heat and sends white blood cells and stuff to heal the problem.

I don't think that the small zap voltage would penetrate deep enough.
People before posted the same circuit but with a step-up transformer on its output for a really strong zap.
Other people posted the same circuit with an LED that would light and blink. It gave good results even though its zapper part of the circuit wasn't powered.

I also don't think that a zap at 15Hz would do anything. Most likely you want to pulse the 30kHz at a 15Hz rate, using a 15Hz 555 circuit to gate another 30kHz 555 circuit on and off. :lol:
the therapy with this simple circuit... that's what works
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Old 2nd January 2006, 08:39 PM   (permalink)
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Sounds like you're pretty deep into the territory of medical quackery. Rife and similar devices have never been shown to produce a verifiable result except for placebo effects (which can be rather significant). In which case you don't need to do a lot of worrying about frequency, you just need some electrodes and blinking lights.
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Old 2nd January 2006, 09:27 PM   (permalink)
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wrong... i'll tell u later the case of my boss

i'm going to the gym and swimm in the pool, hot weather is melting my brain.

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Old 2nd January 2006, 09:47 PM   (permalink)
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Sounds like you're pretty deep into the territory of medical quackery.
Maybe he is a chiropractor.
I went to a chiropractor to see what it was all about, a few days before my area's medicare cut them off.
He scanned my back with an ohm-meter connected to his pc. Where he pressed the probes the hardest, the pc reported a "problem" on my spine.
Then he "adjusted" my neck, spine and ankles.
He sprained my neck, spine and one ankle then presented me with a treatment plan of many adjustments for a cost of only a few thousand dollars!
I hobbled out of there as fast as I could and noticed the many herbal medicines for sale that he makes himself. From grass clippings? :cry:
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Old 3rd January 2006, 04:23 AM   (permalink)
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I hobbled out of there as fast as I could and noticed the many herbal medicines for sale that he makes himself. From grass clippings? :cry:
HeHeHeHe well if audio starts MOOOOOOOOing in his posts we know he took that herbal mecidine :twisted:
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Old 3rd January 2006, 05:02 AM   (permalink)
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HeHeHeHe well if audio starts MOOOOOOOOing in his posts we know he took that herbal mecidine :twisted:
Except for my avatar, Kentucky Fried Chicken is as close to a quack that I get. How about turkeys, do they quack?
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Old 3rd January 2006, 06:29 AM   (permalink)
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Except for my avatar, Kentucky Fried Chicken is as close to a quack that I get. How about turkeys, do they quack?
That's a hard one to Answer audio but you might get an answer from some of the turkey's that post stupid questions and waste valuable time when most user's look at the post. :twisted:
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Old 3rd January 2006, 06:56 AM   (permalink)
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Why are we talking about quacks?
Let's soup-up the muscle twitching zapper circuit so it electrocutes the patients.
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Old 3rd January 2006, 09:40 PM   (permalink)
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Why are we talking about quacks?
Let's soup-up the muscle twitching zapper circuit so it electrocutes the patients.
Well the Janurary edition of silicon chip has a project called the tens circuit which does exactly what this thread is talking about. With a bit of tweaking I'm sure we could make up a perfect zapper circuit :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Old 3rd January 2006, 11:52 PM   (permalink)
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Well the Janurary edition of silicon chip has a project called the tens circuit which does exactly what this thread is talking about. With a bit of tweaking I'm sure we could make up a perfect zapper circuit :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Do you mean their high-energy electronic ignition project?
I should do the trick. :lol:
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Old 4th January 2006, 02:18 AM   (permalink)
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Well the Janurary edition of silicon chip has a project called the tens circuit which does exactly what this thread is talking about. With a bit of tweaking I'm sure we could make up a perfect zapper circuit :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Do you mean their high-energy electronic ignition project?
I should do the trick. :lol:
Na Mate below is the circuit and I looked at the silly chip site and they haven't updated it yet so below is a scanned copy of the circuit. This is the one I thought we could tweak :twisted:
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Old 4th January 2006, 02:33 AM   (permalink)
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The 80V zap should be good for torture.
The patients will heal just to get away from it.
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Old 19th January 2006, 12:10 PM   (permalink)
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The intensity with the zapper is ok...
No "strenght" is need here...

The homeopathy is said to not heal either.... Less force is equal more force (just like a zen master would say).

The other frequencies can intensify the activity of medicine (homeopathic) to act into feelings and subcouncious mental patterns.
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