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Old 3rd November 2009, 10:58 PM   #31
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It seems better to use the tl071 circuit with a precision half-wave rectifier,
how can I get a -9v am I going to have to use two 9 volt batterries?

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I do have an mc33172n chip but how would I connect that the the tl071 circuit?

both of these for input to a microcontroller?
My MC33172 circuit is a mic preamp (like the TL071 mic preamp) plus a precision half-wave rectifier circuit but not needing a negative supply voltage. That is all you need.

Or instead you can use a TL071 mic preamp plus an LF351 precision half-wave rectifier that needs a negative supply voltage.

Both circuits will perform the same. Select one.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:04 PM   #32
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I choose the tl071 and the precision half wave rectifier..
I figured out how to give it a negative nine volt supply from an external dual power supply. I just have a concern of how to do that negative supply once im only working with bread boards or a pcb?
any suggestions?
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:11 PM   #33
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Why don't you like my MC33172 circuit? It does not need a negative supply and it works perfectly in my project. It has more than 50dB range.
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Old 6th November 2009, 11:54 PM   #34
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i dont have the parts in yet but i will. In the meantime,

for a negative voltage here is what i found. I tested it im getting negative 1 volt not negative 5 which is what im looking for. I found this schematic online through google.

My question is, what value of diode is supposed to be used based on the schematic any suggestions?

I would greatly apreciate it..
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Old 7th November 2009, 12:35 AM   #35
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The 555 oscillator/rectifier circuit has two rectifier diodes and a 5.1V zener diode that limits its output voltage to -5.1V.
Maybe you connected the zener diode with backwards polarity.
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Old 8th November 2009, 01:05 AM   #36
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i doubled checked polarities, Im thinking its the value of D1 AND D2,
which value should I use?
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Old 8th November 2009, 02:04 AM   #37
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Use a 1N4001 rectifier diode for D1 and D2.
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Old 9th November 2009, 09:18 PM   #38
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I tried the 1n4001 diodes again and im still getting -1 volts or so. what would you suggest to do to get a negative voltage?
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Old 9th November 2009, 10:27 PM   #39
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Do you have the 5.1V zener diode connected with its cathode to ground?
What is the load on the -5.1V supply?
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Old 9th November 2009, 10:38 PM   #40
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across the zener -5.1 diode i have -0.16v with the cathode to ground.
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Old 9th November 2009, 10:42 PM   #41
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I dont have anything connected to the load.. just yet. If i get it to work i plan to connect it a circuit which has an tl 071 microphone op amp with an lf 351 precision half wave rectifier. Is there another rectifier circuit I can build that doesnt use negative voltage? or what can I do any suggestions?
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Old 9th November 2009, 10:44 PM   #42
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Before you had -1V and now you have only -0.16V. I don't know why the output voltage is dropping.
Try another 555 IC and new 9V battery.
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Old 9th November 2009, 11:17 PM   #43
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I replaced the 555 timer and now im getting negative one volts, the power is coming from a dc power supply not a nine volt battery but I dont suspect this would be the cause..
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Old 9th November 2009, 11:18 PM   #44
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Is there another rectifier circuit I can build that doesnt use negative voltage? or what can I do any suggestions?
My MC33172 circuit is a mic preamp (like the TL071 mic preamp) plus a precision half-wave rectifier circuit but not needing a negative supply voltage. That is all you need.
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Old 10th November 2009, 12:53 AM   #45
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Hi im not getting any audio like wave forms at output or pin1 and or output or pin 7. How can I check to see if I didnt blow my chip or what would you recommend to debug this?
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