Hello Everyone !! im a newbie here , just joined like an hour ago, Im a Hobbyist , have very very very minimal knowledge in electronix, just know enough, to know "where not to stick my fingers on a live circuit board" lol 
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So people !! here is my humble query, I have the " image" of a circuit board with all its components installed in it .. ...BUT its like looking at the image of Turtle from the top, there no way (at least for me ) to know whats Beneath the turtle ( cause- its just an image ) .
That circuit is from a toy from the 80's - which apparently has flashing lights - the toy is not being made anymore, the company itself is not there anymore. I take it as a challenge, upon myself to rebuild this toy from scratch. But i don't have the knowledge to figure the circuit in this way, also it involves 2 IC's. The Black Wires get hooked up to tiny bulbs ( i dont know what voltage those bulbs will be ??), and this toy was powered by 3 size "D" batteries so thats like 4.5volts ??
Oooop i had to get back in and edit my post ... as i realized that maybe the image cant be enlarged ???or not?...well the part # for the two IC's are as follows :
my conversation with my buddy , chatGPT
Question = hi !! - this M4017 ic and the M4011, both are used in a toy circuit with switching lights that go on and off when a ball hits it ? can you elaborate more on that ?
Answer = both ic’s as obsolete not being made any more the alternative to use is CD4017 and CD4011 respectively …and ….
The IC Roles in the Toy Circuit
M4011 – Quad 2-Input NAND Gate
This chip likely handles:
1. Signal Conditioning
When a ball hits a sensor (button, piezo, reed switch, etc.), the signal might be noisy or bouncy.
The M4011 is probably cleaning this signal (debouncing) before it’s sent as a clean clock pulse to the M4017.
2. Logic Control
It could be gating signals (e.g., allowing counting only under certain conditions).
It might also combine multiple inputs (like "ball hit" AND "game on") to allow LED advancement.
In short: M4011 processes and filters the "ball hit" signal.
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M4017 – Decade Counter
This chip is doing the main LED sequencing:
1. LED Chaser Behavior
Each valid pulse from the M4011 advances the active output pin on the M4017.
Those output pins (Q0–Q9) drive LEDs — lighting up a different LED after each hit.
2. Looping Back
After the 10th LED, it loops back to the first, restarting the sequence.
In short: M4017 counts clean hit signals and lights up the next LED in order.
Can someone help me figure out the schematics of this circuit ?, what it would look like ? and what components / with values would I need to buy ??
Any Help, Advice and or Guidance, Much Appreciated , Please and Thank you !!
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.So people !! here is my humble query, I have the " image" of a circuit board with all its components installed in it .. ...BUT its like looking at the image of Turtle from the top, there no way (at least for me ) to know whats Beneath the turtle ( cause- its just an image ) .
That circuit is from a toy from the 80's - which apparently has flashing lights - the toy is not being made anymore, the company itself is not there anymore. I take it as a challenge, upon myself to rebuild this toy from scratch. But i don't have the knowledge to figure the circuit in this way, also it involves 2 IC's. The Black Wires get hooked up to tiny bulbs ( i dont know what voltage those bulbs will be ??), and this toy was powered by 3 size "D" batteries so thats like 4.5volts ??
Oooop i had to get back in and edit my post ... as i realized that maybe the image cant be enlarged ???or not?...well the part # for the two IC's are as follows :
my conversation with my buddy , chatGPT
Question = hi !! - this M4017 ic and the M4011, both are used in a toy circuit with switching lights that go on and off when a ball hits it ? can you elaborate more on that ?
Answer = both ic’s as obsolete not being made any more the alternative to use is CD4017 and CD4011 respectively …and ….
The IC Roles in the Toy Circuit
M4011 – Quad 2-Input NAND Gate
This chip likely handles:
1. Signal Conditioning
When a ball hits a sensor (button, piezo, reed switch, etc.), the signal might be noisy or bouncy.
The M4011 is probably cleaning this signal (debouncing) before it’s sent as a clean clock pulse to the M4017.
2. Logic Control
It could be gating signals (e.g., allowing counting only under certain conditions).
It might also combine multiple inputs (like "ball hit" AND "game on") to allow LED advancement.
In short: M4011 processes and filters the "ball hit" signal.
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M4017 – Decade Counter
This chip is doing the main LED sequencing:
1. LED Chaser Behavior
Each valid pulse from the M4011 advances the active output pin on the M4017.
Those output pins (Q0–Q9) drive LEDs — lighting up a different LED after each hit.
2. Looping Back
After the 10th LED, it loops back to the first, restarting the sequence.
In short: M4017 counts clean hit signals and lights up the next LED in order.
Can someone help me figure out the schematics of this circuit ?, what it would look like ? and what components / with values would I need to buy ??
Any Help, Advice and or Guidance, Much Appreciated , Please and Thank you !!
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