Federal Register | Medical Devices; Revision of the Identification of the Iontophoresis Device; WithdrawalAn iontophoresis device is a device that is intended to use a direct current to introduce ions of soluble salts or other drugs into the body and induce sweating for diagnostic or other uses.
Thanks a lot for the info. Yeah I have been doing a lot of research to make sure I understand everything. I am curious what is the maximum current the heart can withstand without it getting harmed?
There's no set figure - but as I said, with only 12V there's no problem at all - unless you were thinking of stabbing two probes through your chest directly in to your heart?.
There's no set figure - but as I said, with only 12V there's no problem at all - unless you were thinking of stabbing two probes through your chest directly in to your heart?.
Isn't this just electrolysis. Couldn't the series voltage and the body acting as ground be nothing more than that.
If, correct the metal particles can be transferred through to the small capillaries of the skin. If the particles are small enough to breach the blood membrane barrier it would enter into the blood.
The result could be potentially hazardous through long term exposure. (Better safe than sorry)
Edit: I began to think about this further. Particles could become soluble. Sweat contains salt which acts as a dielectric in the metals which would increase chance of absorption once soluble as well as being ionic could increase transport.
Mike, I'm probably way off, if you read this you may give clarity on this. If I'm way off you'll find it.
I read that when your hands are wet (which would be in this case if submerged into the pans of water) your body resistance is about 1 000 ohms.
Now if this is the case and a 12V battery is used this would give 12mA flowing through the chest (12V / 1 000 ohms).
I also read that around 10mA is the maximum safe current. So I was wondering how 12V would still be perfectly be safe.
You're imagining a lot of untrue events - 1000 ohm hand to hand would be exceptionally low - and even if 12mA could be made to flow in that way (which I doubt) very little of it would be through the heart.
Get a 12V battery and experiment - you struggle to get even a tingle off 12V (don't put it aross your tongue though)
You're imagining a lot of untrue events - 1000 ohm hand to hand would be exceptionally low - and even if 12mA could be made to flow in that way (which I doubt) very little of it would be through the heart.
Get a 12V battery and experiment - you struggle to get even a tingle off 12V (don't put it aross your tongue though)
I've brushed up against the positive terminal, while working on a car, and felt considerably more than a 'tingle'. No the car wasn't running at the time. Maybe some cotton gloves to absorb some of the sweat. Also good for keeping your grubbie fingerprints of copper you are about to etch... I'd be skeptical of any miracle you see on YouTube, there are just as many hoaxes and scams on there, as real deals. Look at some of the 'free' energy, and perpetual motion machines, seems so real, but physically impossible...
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Oh ok. Would you happen to know the estimate hand-to-hand resistance? (if both of your hands were in water)
I tried using a multimeter to measure my hand-to-hand resistance and got 0.5 mega ohms (left thumb on red probe and right thumb on black probe). This was when both thumbs were wet.
It varies MASSIVELY - depending upon loads of different reasons.
BUt 12V is nowhere near a safety hazard.
Oh ok thanks. I am thinking about trying 18V (as apparently 12V doesnt provide enough current to work for some people). Would this be fine? (also nowhere near safety hazard).
The direct stabbing would likely kill him before any electrical current would have the opportunity to!.... as I said, with only 12V there's no problem at all - unless you were thinking of stabbing two probes through your chest directly in to your heart?.
bryan,
Curious...How did you determine that 180A passed through your body? That's a a path resistance of only 0.16Ω.
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