I2C PCF8574, PCF8575 I/O expander I can't drive a pin to Output & High

[blueroomelectronics]

I've got a little I2C rig setup and I can communicate with an PCF8575
I can drive a pin LOW but cannot pull it high.
eg:
0x40,0xAA,0xAA turns every other pin low but nothing goes high.
Anyone else using this type of I/O expander.

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

Aren't they really strange? - pins are IN and OUT at the same time, and I 'think' that outputs are open-collector, so require pull-up resistors to work.

 

[Chippie]

According to the datatsheet, they are active low open drain outputs..

https://www.electro-tech-online.com/custompdfs/2009/07/AN469_2.pdf

 

[blueroomelectronics]

What's the 100uA pullup for? Those pins never show high...

 

[Chippie]

Is this what you are referring to?


4. Question: In the data sheet of PCF8575 it is mentioned that the Port output is HIGH
after power-on. In the data sheet of PCF8575C it is mentioned that the Port output will
be in 3-state condition after power-on. We found that there is no difference in the block
diagram and the simplified schematic diagram of each I/O. What is the condition of the
outputs after power-on?
Answer: There is in fact a small difference in the schematic diagrams for PCF8575
and PCF8575C. The PCF8575C lacks the weak pull-up in the form of the 100 μA
current source in the output I/Os. This is the reason that PCF8575's I/Os remain HIGH
after power-on and after being written HIGH. Without this current source, PCF8575C's
I/Os will be in high-impedance state after the initial strong pull-up transistor is OFF (it
is ON during the acknowledge phase).

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Thanks Chippie, I'll see if I can source some with the pull ups.

 

[Chippie]

no probs m8ty...Happy hunting...

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Aye, well I haven't found any other revisions aside from C and D. Now I've got to check for pullups on NXT or TI rev D.

edit:
The PCA9555 is pin compatible and appears to have the resistors! Thanks Chippie.

 

[Chippie]

Aye, well I haven't found any other revisions aside from C and D. Now I've got to check for pullups on NXT or TI rev D.

edit:
The PCA9555 is pin compatible and appears to have the resistors! Thanks Chippie.

Ahh that's good..

I do have a use then?......

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Ahh that's good..

I do have a use then?......

But alas, I'm afraid we'll have to sell you for scientific experiments.
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