Help to identify a component

uola

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It was in the power supply circuit of a time relay. The time relay is made on two HEF4541B-Q100 counters: one for setting the delay (switching frequency) the other one to control the pulse duration and thyristor for the power control. Nothing really fancy. What puzzled me is the transformerless power supply of the type I've never encountered before: no v-drop-off cap just a resistor (10k+10k+8.2k) and I didn't find where is the zener diode (but perhaps I just missed it somehow). The part which a try to identify is burned out and was connected in parallel with the drop-off resistor. The resistors (thin film judging by the color) were also burned out. I replaced the resistors and the thing sprang to life without this unknown part. By the look I would guess it is a cap but I cannot explain why would you need one at this place as before the steady state of operation is reached the cap would short-out the drop-off resistor which does not seem to me very logical.
The part is in the shape of cylinder with the diameter of: 4.7mm and the height of: 2.7mm. Before it burned out two contact legs were welded on each circular side. For more please refer to the Figs.
*** My guess: it is a PTC. I still would need more input as confirmation. In the sense that it decreases the overall resistance when the circuit is switched on so the bigger el. caps could charge quickly, later the resistance goes up to reduce the strain on the zener diode which I didn't find on the PCB ***


Thx in advance for everyone trying to help.
 

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As you suspect, probably a PTC of some type - although from the rather blurred pictures it looks rather like a Wickman fuse, although that would have the wires both going in the same side.
 
Thanks a lot Nigel. Sorry regarding the pictures, normally they look blurred when they are downscaled by the webpage if you click on the picture they should look sharp at least for me they do. I added some new pics from under the microscope. And you a right it's most likely a PCT, e.g. B758 from TDK. More info in the attached files.
 

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To choose a replacement estimate the switching current, IS threshold IS you want for switching which starts at a 200s time constant and speeds up with more.

Or choose the holding rated current which is about IR = 50% of IS.
 
Thanks a lot Nigel. Sorry regarding the pictures, normally they look blurred when they are downscaled by the webpage if you click on the picture they should look sharp at least for me they do.
Not online they don't, they are quite low-res pictures, but optically out of focus as well. It's VERY hard to get good close pictures.
 
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