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breadboads and pcb's no capacitors, always fine, always works!
and I still recommend it to everybody to take them out if their oscillator isn't going

and THAT'S all i gotta say about that
 
Sorry Tom

The fact that you had them working always, your words, doesn't validate your advice.

I ALWAYS worked in breadboard up to 20 MHz with reasonable results and NEVER a (PIC) oscilator worked without the caps.

Such advice is misleading. In my opinion you are not doing any favor to readers. Go and do it in a PCB and sure they will not work at all.

Your special case (which I doubt is as you describe) doesn't make for a rule.
 
Tom2000:
I don't think you should advice us to leave out those cappacitors! I can tell from my experiences, when I accidentaly leaved them out (for 78xx, 12F675 VDD to VDD cap, or oscilators cap...), it never worked as should (on breadboard or PCB).
 
Re: Sorry Tom

atferrari said:
Such advice is misleading. In my opinion you are not doing any favor to readers.

You're right, eventhough i wasn't making advices, i was making suggestions.

anyways, you guys can do whatever the hell you want
 
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