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by the way, is there somthing called a universal programmer?
i really hope it can do what i think it can!
if you are interested in 89S51 ( not plain) i could suggest you a nice programmer that works off 5V DCi live in Goa in India, remember that once beautiful hippie place?
it's still beautiful, only filled with too many morons. I still don't understand why the vendor kept 8951s in stock? whats the use of them without the programmer kits?