i kindly ask you all not to turn this thread into one where you make fun of God and other religious beliefs.
blueroomelectronics said:Home is where you hang your hat.
killivolt said:From what I'm noticed this only happens when (Easy Belief ism) is forced without the sense humility. And to be the only truth within the scope of intelligent comprehension.
Maybe to suggest that it is widely accepted by the masses or to suggest that it is counter intuitive to think otherwise.
Originally Posted by ikalogic
don't understand that either! bang ! but i am eager to understand! Bang !
killivolt said:They say ignorance is bliss ........... It's good to be happy
From what I've noticed this only happens when (Easy Belief ism) is forced without the sense humility. And to be the only truth within the scope of intelligent comprehension.
Maybe to suggest that it is widely accepted by the masses or to suggest that it is counter intuitive to think otherwise.
Hank Fletcher said:3) "Ignorance is bliss." Jpanhalt's interpretation of this expression almost makes ignorance seem like a positive thing, although I've never thought about it that way before.
jpanhalt said:Not my intent at all. I was just trying to explain what the phrase meant, and one must use it carefully, I believe. Have you ever heard something to the effect, "I like sausages, but I don't want to know how they are made?"To that, one might apply ignorance is bliss.
I once saw a compilation of adages that showed for virtually every adage there is another one that gives opposite advice. They are a nice part of every language, but because of the cultural context, they can give trouble in translation. John
killivolt said:To easily believe or (Easy Belief ism) without physical evidence to support that God Exists. When you apply it to the natural laws of this known Universe it is not logical.
If you suggest everyone should accept this as truth without humility because this is only your personal belief. To proceed with same lack of accuracy is to suggest they are ignorant of that said truth (That you personally have accepted) will only inflame a conversation without supporting data to back it up.
To further inflame the point by speaking as if this is widely accepted by everyone else in the world and that somehow you must be stupid (Not physically expressed) but yet has a descending ring in it will only light the match to the fuel you just poured on it.
From what I have seen you are not confrontational. Therefore it will not become a problem for someone else to solve or debate about.
You can find what you are looking for (Debate or Discussion) most people here or anywhere will be ready and willing to give you what you want.
(Sorry about the incoherent gibberish)
(Sorry if it is to be much of the same)
ikalogic said:Okay.. just a little point I'd like to add. I never "suggested everyone should accept this as truth without humility because this is only my personal belief"
ikalogic said:and i didn't inflame anything, i was just answering a question, in the most possible discrete fashion, trying NOT to inflame this kind of discussion, simply because i "don't" want to debate about this.
ikalogic said:Let me tell how i feel exactly about that, since the conversation came to that point, this will also add up with your comment when you said i was not confrontational: I am deeply in love with my religion,I respect it, and praise it proudly every day. However, you will rarely see me trying to talk about it, and for sure, you will never see me suggesting anything to you, or to anyone!
ikalogic said:In my ideology, as an open minded half French/ half Egyptian, I believe this is something between me and my self. The fact that you believe or not is not my business, and i don't even want to know about, and that's why, when i referred to paradise, i asked not turn this thread into what it has become now! i was just answering a simple question with a simple answer... but apparently, just using words like "God" or "paradise" inflames a discussion like that.. it's good to know
ikalogic said:Anyway.. i may seem angry or something, but i am not at all, it's cool!
ikalogic said:look what a thread about bill gates turned into!! well the ****-chat is one controversial forum!!loool
You mean he made something out of being rich to begin with. Gates is no genius - he's a shrewd, and arguably heartless, businessman. There's been no net contribution by Gates himself towards innovative thinking or the cultural fabric of our society. Given the resources available to him through his incredible wealth and that of his business, he's done very little in terms of advancing any field. But that's not his objective: making money is.Marks256 said:I have nothing against bill gates. He is a brilliant person. He made something out of nothing.
Hank Fletcher said:You mean he made something out of being rich to begin with. Gates is no genius - he's a shrewd, and arguably heartless, businessman. There's been no net contribution by Gates himself towards innovative thinking or the cultural fabric of our society. Given the resources available to him through his incredible wealth and that of his business, he's done very little in terms of advancing any field. But that's not his objective: making money is.
Nolan Bushnell has my vote for the best contributor/innovator/businessman in this area. Made a great product, knew how to market it, everybody's happy, and when he got bored, he got out.
ikalogic said:In my opinion, microsoft must be spending 10% on research and development, and the remaining 90% on studies on how to prevent anyone from doing better products, thought the most malicious, barely-legal techniques...
blueroomelectronics said:And Apple is any better? They used to be lawsuit central, probably still are.
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