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dknguyen · 11th September 2006, 02:27 AM

I've just recently come by something called a current sink...but it looked a lot like a current source to me. What's the difference? Is it just the way they are used in the circuit similar to high-side vs low-side? It was something about NMOS sinking current and PMOS sourcing current, but I can't seem to find the article anymore.

mister_e · 11th September 2006, 03:01 AM

The terms refer to the direction of the current.

If it's sink, it is flowing into the output. Let's say NPN, emitter to gnd and a load between Vdd and Collector will SINK
If it's source, it is flowing out of the output. Let's say PNP, emitter to Vdd and a load between Gnd and Collector will Source.

ikalogic · 11th September 2006, 03:14 AM

hello,

Most IC like op-amps and 555 timers can source and sink current, which means:
Source: the currents direction goes from the IC to the load
Sink: the current direction comes from the load to the IC

Some ICs can only sink current but cannot source current like the TRISTATE i/o ports of an AT89C52 microcontroller

Usualy the maximum sinking current for an IC is different from the maximum Sourcing current, depending on the internal circuitry of the IC.

That's the only difference, as far as i know.

audioguru · 11th September 2006, 03:15 AM

A current sink circuit pulls down, it is on the low side.
A current source circuit pulls up, it is on the high side.
Here are both as very simple constant current LED drivers:

dknguyen · 11th September 2006, 03:18 AM

Understood. Anyone know anything about the claim "NMOS sinks current better than PMOS, but PMOS sourcescurrent better than PMOS."

I have always thought this was purely due to the gate voltage requirements to switch the MOSFET on and off, and nothing to do with the source-drain conduction...am I right?

Roff · 11th September 2006, 03:35 AM

NMOS, in order to source, must be configured as a source follower. The output current into a load will the cause source voltage to rise, which will reduce the gate-to-source voltage, which in turn tends to reduce to output current.
The same is true of a PMOS follower, but the voltages and currents are reversed.

Dean Huster · 11th September 2006, 12:31 PM

The guy above with the earmuffs:

a) is an airline pilot
b) is an outdoor audiophile
c) forgot that Idahoans are supposed to wear cowboy hats
d) has a chainsaw in one hand, so watch out
e) is working on his memory

dknguyen · 11th September 2006, 12:56 PM

(e) working on his memory. Got to stop stuff from leaking out.

Roff · 11th September 2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Huster

The guy above with the earmuffs:

a) is an airline pilot
b) is an outdoor audiophile
c) forgot that Idahoans are supposed to wear cowboy hats
d) has a chainsaw in one hand, so watch out
e) is working on his memory

Hey, I'm a trend-setter in Idaho. Half the people in the state are now walking around wearing headphones and grungy baseball caps. Below is one of my trainees. Not nearly as cool as me, but then who is...

audioguru · 11th September 2006, 03:12 PM

Ron wears the headphones from his metal detector. He frequently searches for pennies.

The fuzz on my chin is beginning to look like his, I better have a shave.

Hero999 · 11th September 2006, 08:21 PM

Source followers are especially bad because the gate threashold is higher than a bjt. A MOSFET configured as a source follower driving a reasonable load can drop as much as 6V.

Dean Huster · 14th September 2006, 10:25 PM

My gosh, Ron. That picture must be old to have that old 12-inch hard drive to the guy's right. It must be at least 128KB, spinning at 33-1/3 rpm, huh?

I forgot to include answer "f": "Trying to keep the top of his head from sunburning and/or developing a headband stripe."

Dean

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11th September 2006, 02:27 AM	(permalink)
dknguyen	Current Source vs Current Sink? I've just recently come by something called a current sink...but it looked a lot like a current source to me. What's the difference? Is it just the way they are used in the circuit similar to high-side vs low-side? It was something about NMOS sinking current and PMOS sourcing current, but I can't seem to find the article anymore.

11th September 2006, 03:01 AM	(permalink)
mister_e	The terms refer to the direction of the current. If it's sink, it is flowing into the output. Let's say NPN, emitter to gnd and a load between Vdd and Collector will SINK If it's source, it is flowing out of the output. Let's say PNP, emitter to Vdd and a load between Gnd and Collector will Source. __________________ Steve ______________________ info@mister-e.org www.mister-e.org

11th September 2006, 03:14 AM	(permalink)
ikalogic	hello, Most IC like op-amps and 555 timers can source and sink current, which means: Source: the currents direction goes from the IC to the load Sink: the current direction comes from the load to the IC Some ICs can only sink current but cannot source current like the TRISTATE i/o ports of an AT89C52 microcontroller Usualy the maximum sinking current for an IC is different from the maximum Sourcing current, depending on the internal circuitry of the IC. That's the only difference, as far as i know. __________________ Ibrahim Kamal check my electronics and robotics page: http://www.ikalogic.com/

11th September 2006, 03:18 AM	(permalink)
dknguyen	Understood. Anyone know anything about the claim "NMOS sinks current better than PMOS, but PMOS sourcescurrent better than PMOS." I have always thought this was purely due to the gate voltage requirements to switch the MOSFET on and off, and nothing to do with the source-drain conduction...am I right?

11th September 2006, 03:35 AM	(permalink)
Roff	NMOS, in order to source, must be configured as a source follower. The output current into a load will the cause source voltage to rise, which will reduce the gate-to-source voltage, which in turn tends to reduce to output current. The same is true of a PMOS follower, but the voltages and currents are reversed. __________________ Ron

11th September 2006, 12:31 PM	(permalink)
Dean Huster	The guy above with the earmuffs: a) is an airline pilot b) is an outdoor audiophile c) forgot that Idahoans are supposed to wear cowboy hats d) has a chainsaw in one hand, so watch out e) is working on his memory __________________ Dean Huster, Electronics Curmudgeon Contributing Editor emeritus, "Q & A", of the former "Poptronics" magazine (formerly "Popular Electronics" and "Electronics Now" magazines). R.I.P.

11th September 2006, 12:56 PM	(permalink)
dknguyen	(e) working on his memory. Got to stop stuff from leaking out.

11th September 2006, 03:12 PM	(permalink)
audioguru	Ron wears the headphones from his metal detector. He frequently searches for pennies. The fuzz on my chin is beginning to look like his, I better have a shave. __________________ Uncle $crooge

11th September 2006, 08:21 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	Source followers are especially bad because the gate threashold is higher than a bjt. A MOSFET configured as a source follower driving a reasonable load can drop as much as 6V. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

14th September 2006, 10:25 PM	(permalink)
Dean Huster	My gosh, Ron. That picture must be old to have that old 12-inch hard drive to the guy's right. It must be at least 128KB, spinning at 33-1/3 rpm, huh? I forgot to include answer "f": "Trying to keep the top of his head from sunburning and/or developing a headband stripe." Dean __________________ Dean Huster, Electronics Curmudgeon Contributing Editor emeritus, "Q & A", of the former "Poptronics" magazine (formerly "Popular Electronics" and "Electronics Now" magazines). R.I.P.