Zener reference voltage

[jpanhalt]

Below are two options I have considered to obtain a zener reference voltage less than 5.1 V for a comparator. A 1N5232 (5.1 V) zener is used in Circuit A, and the voltage divider will have a total resistance of around 20K. A 1N5224 (2.8 V) is used in Circuit B. The temperature coefficients are +0.04%/°C and -0.08%/°C, respectively. The comparator (LM393) is being used to maintain a fixed voltage across a large capacitor. A percent or two variation in that voltage will not matter.

My principal question is whether there is an established best practice to use one approach or the other? Also, any recommendations for the total divider resistance or other values would be appreciated.

Thanks. John

 

[Pommie]

The 2.8V circuit will be more stable and be able to supply more current. Do you realise that the normal tolerance on those zeners is 20%. A voltage reference chip may be more suitable.

Mike.

 

[jpanhalt]

Mike, Thanks for the prompt reply. This is actually for an adaptation of the spot welder circuit you gave a link to a few days ago. That circuit used an adjustable voltage regulator. I thought it would be at least as easy and provide more charging current to use a P-channel mosfet controlled by the comparator. I have a crude concept circuit working. I will post the completed circuit when available.

To answer your question, I don't think tolerance will be a big deal. The TIG and MIG welders I have used simply had a pot with arbitrary markings for "heat" or its equivalent. I will be doing the same. Reproducibility is more imortant than the actual voltage value.

Also, with the comparator, I can create a delay to have the relay disconnect occur a little before firing the SCR to be sure that part of the circuit is protected. John

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Take a look at the TL431
**broken link removed**

 

[Pommie]

This is actually for an adaptation of the spot welder circuit you gave a link to a few days ago. That circuit used an adjustable voltage regulator. I thought it would be at least as easy and provide more charging current to use a P-channel mosfet controlled by the comparator. I have a crude concept circuit working. I will post the completed circuit when available.
John

I'll look forward to an account of how you get on.

Mike.