dknguyen said:You were in an unapproved country so PayPal didn't work- period. No ifs, ands, or buts. It worked every other time you did it because you were in an approved country. It's for your protection. Sure the internet is international, but would you like something like being able to anonymously withdraw money from your bank account be international? What you can do, criminals can too.
Circumventing this by spoofing yourself to appear as if you were in an approved country when you are not is breaking terms of agreement. It's like breaking into the bank because you wanted to withdraw from your bank account after hours.
Next time, don't bid on something in Ebay if you are planning to travel to an unapproved country.
sram said:I never mentioned spoof emails. I don't see how they are related here. I'll give some numbers. I used it more than 70 times in unapproved country! The guy is wrong i'm sure
You guys might need to visit this website:
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and read their forums!!
I'm trying to get help here, not discuss paypal service.
I do understand the question to the best that you told me. What you didn't say in your original post was that you were able to pay before in unapproved countries. All you said is that you were unable to pay because PayPal said the country you were in was unapproved.sram said:Please understand the question before being harsh in the answer.
So if you know this, what exactly is suprising about it? What should have been suprising you is that you were able to access your PayPal account.sram said:I'm an old paypal user, and this is what I understand: you can't link your bank account/address to a paypal account and use it to pay online if you are in unapproved country.
It's an arbitrary list made up by PayPal where they have some reason to now put it on the list. The internet is international, but they just don't feel like allowing access from particular countries that are not of the account's origin (completely subject to their choosing and terms at anytime).sram said:Do you know what they mean by un approved country? Define this for me!
It's even harder to chase someone down in another country...so even though it may be pretty much the same for you, it makes PayPal look even worse if it happens. They may just be covering their ass.sram said:If somebody can steal my account in this unapproved country, somebody can also steal it in my home/approved country.....same story!
It seems most likely that they have updated their security protocals since last you used PayPal in a non-approved country since ID theft is becoming a problem. THis is the first time it has happened right? Have you tried it since this happened in a country where it has worked before?sram said:I did it (paid in an unapproved country)many times before and paypal didn't complain!
Uhhh. the point is that I don't have to go through regular snail mail.sram said:It is just like one'e email, what is the point if you access it in one country!
dknguyen said:I do understand the question to the best that you told me. What you didn't say in your original post was that you were able to pay before in unapproved countries. All you said is that you were unable to pay because PayPal said the country you were in was unapproved.
So if you know this, what exactly is suprising about it? What should have been suprising you is that you were able to access your PayPal account.
It's an arbitrary list made up by PayPal where they have some reason to now put it on the list. The internet is international, but they just don't feel like allowing access from particular countries that are not of the account's origin (completely subject to their choosing and terms at anytime).
It's even harder to chase someone down in another country...so even though it may be pretty much the same for you, it makes PayPal look even worse if it happens. They may just be covering their ass.
I have also gotten several spoof emails from PayPal, and Ebay for that matter. You have probably just been lucky. Actually one time, I was pretty sure it was a spoof email, but I was dumb enough to click on "the link" to Ebay. It led me to a login page that looked exactly the same WITH THE SAME WEB ADDRESS. THe only thing that was different was that if you looked really carefully on the link on the e-mail, it originated in some Russia. But after you clicked on it, everything looked exactly like the real Ebay webpage...down to the web address.
I am curious about something, how exactly did you go about proving that you were you over the phone or internet with PayPal? You didn't just call and say you were you and provided some information that anyone determined enough could get access to...did you?
It seems most likely that they have updated their security protocals since last you used PayPal in a non-approved country since ID theft is becoming a problem. THis is the first time it has happened right? Have you tried it since this happened in a country where it has worked before?
Uhhh. the point is that I don't have to go through regular snail mail.
I'm asking if you have been able to check if PayPal still works from an unapproved country where it has worked for you before.sram said:They might have changed their policies....What do you mean by saying have you tried it? My account is limited and I need to go back and verify that i'm at the registered address to get it back to normal.
I know that I am not able to do everything on the internet anywhere in the world. So saying something the internet is international doesn't really say that you have been able to pay from unapproved countries before. The keyword here is "unapproved". PayPal policy overrides the internet's internationalism.sram said:- !!!>!?!?!>? Mind to read my original post carefully? Read the eighth line that starts with the word international !!
Sure, they ask verification questions...but could I have answered those verification questions if I had stolen your identity? Do you remember when you first applied for your PayPal account and registered your credit card or bank account? THEY PHONED YOU. They have your security in mind. They aren't about to just allow access to your account because some guy from another country phoned them and said that he was the owner of the account and wanted to pay for something from that country. This is someone's bank account or credit card that is at stake- PayPal isn't about to give it up so easily. You should be glad about that.sram said:They ask you some verification questions.
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