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transistor saturation simulation

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Several months ago I was confused about how to set up a transistor to check/calculate for saturation.
Using TINA simulation I have been using to test my circuits.
And yes the transistor saturation is right on. the current draw with a shorted collector to emitter is close to without the short.
201.63ua without short and 204.55ua with short
just a simple suggestion seeing how we are getting lots of homework assignments on this form.



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If you measure the voltage from the transistor collector to emitter, you will see the saturation voltage, which is the parameter often given on the data sheet.
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