I've got a timer program for a 16f but not sure if an 18f would be better. I know I 'm starting a bit late in life, but I would like to achieve something before I get too old. I have been in the mechanical industry most of my life and I did have a dabble in programming years ago but ended up having to drop it for my kids. I thought for the timer project it would be easier to simply use a raspberry pi but programming it to do what I want has proved to be a nightmare. So, now, I'm thinking if I can print a countdown on an LCD screen 16 X2 , then I should be able to display the output on an LCD TV. SORRY that was a mouthful!