replacing L7805 with LM317 linear power regulator;

[vari21]

Hi again everyone here and happy new year.
I have two willem programmers ,and both have vpp drop issue ,the vpp suppose to be 12.5v but i have only 2.3v on both devices vcc is ok. i made some searchs on internet and i found that the power circuit on willem is terrible, a lot of people complaining of voltage drop problems caused by the 100uh inductor and the step up converter ,so i ve decided to remove the whole circuit L7805, 100uh inductor and the step up converter and replacing them with LM317 or two linear regulators and triming resistors, since the LM317 it s more stable and reliable. my question is that possible ??if it is possible is there any similar shematic ?
thanks in advance

 

[wkrug]

I think the problem is not the 7805, but the step up converter.
Are there 100...220nF Ceramic Capacitators near the Input and Output Pins of the 7805?
The Output Voltage of an 7805 must be lower then the Input Voltage.
To make this shure You can Insert a Diode between Output an Input to avoid this.
( Cathode shows to the Input Side ).
That all will stabilize the 7805.

Do You have a Schematic of that Part.

 

[wkrug]

Here are some suggetions to modify the Programmer:
https://www.py2bbs.qsl.br/willem_pcb45en.php

When the 7805 would be to hot it is possible to use a switching replacement like
this
It is Pin Compatibe to the 7805 series and reduces the drawn current on the input side.

 

[Visitor]

Load on the Vpp should be next to nothing. If the 7805 is getting hot, you have an excessive current draw somewhere.

 

[vari21]

here is the shematic.
i noticed also that led diode number 4 does nt light up.any ideas?

 

[vari21]

the programmer has 4 leds diodes , power led, vcc led ,vpp led the forth i dont know it function it s located near the pic connector.it powers on but the green led number 4 near the pic connector wont light up.
i took a picture from internet to show how my programmer looks like.

 

[wkrug]

The Power for the LED 4 was steered By the VCC_ENA Signal.
That comes from the inverting Latch IC12 Y3.
The Output at the end was activated by the INIT Signal on Port A3.

Possible Issues:
Port Y3 don't go down to GND by missing Strobe or Init signal of IC12 ( Volt Meter, Oszilloscope ).
Q3 don't give out the 5V to VCC1, possible no Voltage at the VCC Line.
Something wrong around LED 4.

 

[vari21]

thank you so much wkrung for your help i will check that out.

 

[vari21]

i could nt find were is located init signal ic12 y3 please help.
thank you.

 

[wkrug]

The INIT Signal is at the Resistor R20 the other side is connected Pin 4 ( A3) at IC 12.
Has RX really 100kOhm ? When there are only 100Ohm it can't work.
I dont know something about the Programmer but I think there is only +5V Signal at the Init Line, that will be Inverted by IC 12.

First I would Check the Signal at Pin 16 ( Y3 ) of IC 12.
There must be a GND Signal when the Init Process is finished.
The Init Signal must be sent via the X1 Connector by an external Unit

 

[vari21]

very well explained ,thank you so much wkrug.

 

[vari21]

Hi wkrung ,i ve checked today the ic 12 with multimeter ,pin16 Y3 030. v
i think i ve fried the m74hc540 ic by plugging something wrong.
excuse me for asking a lot of things ,i ve got another question is it possible to remove the L7805 mc0634 inductor and replace them with X2 LM317 one for vpp ,and the other one for vcc?? i think is possible but im not sure thanks again.