The bit thats confusing is the charging time surely a 200mah nimh battery @10% charge current would take 200mah/10 = 20ma charge current ,200mah/20ma charge time = 10hrs why is speced at 14-16 hour charge for these cells ?
If a nimh battery is half discharged and a recharge is desired then how is charge time recalculated in order to not overcharge the battery ?
So to confirm a charge rate of 3-5%C for nimh cell can be used to charge indefinite without overcharging, 10%C would be pushing it if it was placed indefinite lengths of time in the charger ?
Your "8.4V" battery will not always be 10.15V while it is charging, its voltage might be only 7V when the charging begins. Then your 92.5 ohm current-limiting resistor will supply (12V - 7V)/92.5 ohms= 54mA which is a lot of current for a little 9V battery.
Maybe you should make a current regulator.
The bit thats confusing is the charging time surely a 200mah nimh battery @10% charge current would take 200mah/10 = 20ma charge current ,200mah/20ma charge time = 10hrs why is speced at 14-16 hour charge for these cells ?
If a nimh battery is half discharged and a recharge is desired then how is charge time recalculated in order to not overcharge the battery ?
So to confirm a charge rate of 3-5%C for nimh cell can be used to charge indefinite without overcharging, 10%C would be pushing it if it was placed indefinite lengths of time in the charger ?
That is for a Ni-Cad battery, not for a Ni-MH battery.When a cell is charging it actually absorbs some heat so the temperature states somewhat cooler, .....
@TV TECH would you mind sharing that nimh charging circuit ?I have a really simple but fast charging circuit for a little PP3. My much promised but as so far missing casing/electronic design from this Forum. Electronic design is good. Reliability is exceptional. So far around 300 cycles for a little PP3 with no battery degradation. Totally flat PP3 is fully recharged within 2.5 hours. A year of testing and battery is still good for everything I throw at it. Like new @ day one.
My problem is the casing design for the finished product. I have to cut every groove and drill every hole. I have to polish this product.
Doing my very best here
Will let you know what happens
TV TECH
The chemical action of charging causes the cell voltage to rise and the internal resistance to drop during charging.What causes the voltage across a nimh cell to raise when it is charging i thought the internal resistance decreases when the cell is being charged so that it can provide more current without a voltage drop?
Battery manufacturers show voltage curves on their websites.So you got a really simple charging circuit which consists of a 12vdc, 180ohm resistor in series with the 8.4v nimh pp3 battery say you connect the battery when its at 8.4v and that causes 20ma to flow at the start of the charging process.
As the voltage across the battery raises will it not reach 12vdc eventually and toast the battery?
The fully charged voltage varies with charging current and with temperature.Is a typical nimh cell fully charged when it reaches 1.45v across terminals or when it has had 0.1C charging current for 14-16 hours ?
The max voltage of an Energizer Ni-MH cell is 1.41V only when it is charged at a fairly low current of 0.1C. Energizer shows a graph of a cell's voltage to have a peak voltage of 1.5V when it is charged at the high current of 1C. Some chargers charge at 4C and higher so the voltage will be higher.If the maximum voltage rise of a nimh is 1.41v by the chemical reaction inside then how do "bad chargers" put greater than 1.41v across the cell and potentially reduce lifespan?
Energizer says you can trickle-charge forever at 0.025C. They say that over-charging continuously at 0.1C reduces the life of a Ni-MH cell.I know at 3%C - 5%C charge rate you can basically leave the battery in the charger forever without any fear of overcharging but with 10%C if the minimum full charge time for a nimh cell is 14-16 hours then how much longer can you leave them in the charger for after minimum full time charge is reached without fear of overcharging?
A Ni-MH cell is 1.45V only when it is charging at a certain current and is at a certain temperature.When designing a simple nimh charger what works best:
1.Voltage cutoff that terminates the charging when the cell reaches 1.45v?
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