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Its dc supply.i need to power a dual supply op-amp i found a circuit at this webpage http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public/PSUs/-vgen.html, its supplies a negative voltage which gets it from the positive Vcc but -Vcc has a 1.2V difference from the positive. I need to make -Vcc = +Vcc. Follow up question Do i need both -Vcc and +Vcc equal to make the op-amp work properly
 
If your input signal is ground reference, you need -5 volts minimum to operate the TL082, but you could operate with a single + supply by biasing the input at +5 volts. The MAX1681 will generate -5 volts from +5 volts.
 
Russlk said:
What is the op amp type number? What is the signal? Many op amps will work with unequal + and - supplies.

I think they all do! :)
When is the last time you had +VCC and realized that your minus supply was exactly (-1)*Vcc..

Actually, if you look at the design of the typical opamp, there is nothing demanding that the supplies be equal, it is all about how much you need your output to swing.

TO reduce power dissipation, I often run asymetric supplies. In other words, if I have say +/-15V supplies but my circuit never goes below say -4, I will run the opamp on +15 and -5. But usually, there are only a couple of supply rails available in the system and so its easier just to use those and those are usually symetric.
 
In addition to the output swing, you have to consider the input common mode range. In the case of the TL082, the op amp is not guarenteed to work if the common mode is closer than 4 volts to the supply rails. That is why I recomment minimum -5 volt supply.
 
Im using this opamp configuration. So if used a fixed -5V and 10V Vccs i should have a amplitude of 10V? how about i lower the+Vcc to 9V having the -5V still fixed would i have an amplitude of 9V?
 

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japl said:
Im using this opamp configuration. So if used a fixed -5V and 10V Vccs i should have a amplitude of 10V? how about i lower the+Vcc to 9V having the -5V still fixed would i have an amplitude of 9V?

Your positive and negative supply provide a voltage range that the output of the op amp can span. Now, your actual output amplitude is predicted by your circuit design. If your circuit causes the output to equal or attempt to exceed the respective supply rail, then the op amp will saturate and hold the output "close" to the supply rail. How close depends on opamp - check the datasheet. But of course one can design the circuit to stay well within the supply range. Typically, one has an idea about what values the output voltage must span. Knowing this, one provides + and - supplies to the opamp that are large enough in magnitude to accomodate this. Clear as mud? :)
 
ah brain can't digest :shock: :shock: :shock: so sorry but i dont get it should i redesign the whole thing?
 
japl said:
ah brain can't digest :shock: :shock: :shock: so sorry but i dont get it should i redesign the whole thing?

Perhaps you should explain exactly what you are trying to do and why?.

We may be able to make suggestions to make things easier - one obvious one is to generate an artifical split supply between the existing rails. So if your HT rail is 9V, you would have 9V (+ve rail), 4.5V (0V rail) and 0V (-ve rail). This is common practice with opamps, but depends somewhat on what you are trying to do.
 
Perhaps you should explain exactly what you are trying to do and why?.

im trying to make a variable sawtoothwaveform using the opamp configuration above. This configuration has the characteristic that watever the Vccs inputted equals the amplitude outputted.

So if your HT rail is 9V, you would have 9V (+ve rail), 4.5V (0V rail) and 0V (-ve rail).

wat is rails?HT rail?are these Vccs cant understand this part
 
"This configuration has the characteristic that watever the Vccs inputted equals the amplitude outputted. "
Not so. This is a clever circuit, but the output amplitude is dependent on the resistor values. If the output actually hits the rail, the circuit will hang. I will post a better configuration.

oH - oH, I was wrong, the output does vary with VCC because the first op amp (IC1) output varies the bias on the resistors. I changed the value of R3 because the output of IC2 swings too close to the rail.
This circuit can be used with a single supply voltage.
 

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um mr. russik :D if ever i want to change the output frequency what resistors do i have to vary. do you have a formula for this ckt to compute for the frequency
 
I noticed, when working out the equation, that I had swapped the values of R3 & R4. That post has been corrected.
The equation for frequency is:

F = E1/(E2*C1*(R2+R1)) where
E2 = 2*R4*E1/R3
E1 = the output swing of the first amp.
 
thank u*1gig russik:D :D :D :D :D
Last stupid question this ciruit doesnt need -Vcc :D
thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u
 
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