firewater said:
This is not some independent inventor asking for investors money in some scheme.
It is a respected university with the backing of the Dean and other faculity.
So?
Prove it to the people here?
How do we know you're telling the truth?
Even if you are, there's no proof that they're not involved in some sort of scam.
I know the Dean and board of directors for that school must have gotten a demonstration and reviewed his data carefully before putting their schools reputation on the line and of course he's not going to explain how he does it. No university/company is going to put their intellectual property out for anyone to take and patent for themselves.
For a start the patent office refuses to accept anything that clearly violates the laws of physics.
Secondly, if the aforementioned isn't the case here, even if he did reveal his secrets then no one else could patent them, providing he can prove that he did it first; this is known as giving an example of prior art.
Sadly like so many other sources of energy it will probably be bought up by some huge corparation and shelved to protect their profits.
You appear to be missing the point that if any company came across a new and clean source of energy then they would start profiting from it; why can you not seem to accept this or is it just me?
Now, I'm not meaning to sound nasty of patronising in any way but going by some of the other questions you've asked on this forum your not the best person at science and physics here.
Do to know about bond energies?
Do you at least understand the basics of thermodynamics and the concept of entropy?
You don't have to know all the maths or even accept the aforementioned theories to be true, all you need to is understand them before you go about challenging them. It isn't acceptable to just go round saying "I know people who can extract hydrogen from water using plasmatic induction - it appears to be a promising new energy source." without actually providing any theory as to how it's actually done and if you do then no one with any sense will believe you. Please accept that if you want people to seriously consider any new idea you have then you have to carry the burden of proof.
Please read the FAQ on this forum:
https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/free-energy-faq-guide-v2-0.31298/
Also may I highlight the section on energy gradients. We all know that it's impossible to generate energy from nothing but what many people don't realise is that it isn't energy that does work it's
energy gradients. Liquids and gasses run from high pressure regions to low pressure regions, electronics flow from a high potential to a lower potential. You could quite easily run a car from a very cold substance, that's right you could actually run a Stirling engine from liquid nitrogen, just fill it up and drive off! In this case, you're not actually putting any energy in to your car, in fact you're taking it away when you fill up with liquid nitrogen, the energy that's pushing you along is coming from the outside environment!
So where's the catch? We've discovered a new fuel, liquid nitrogen! A way to tap into into the energy rich source of heat surrounding us!
Well, I'm sorry to say but everything isn't as good as it sounds, is it?
The problem is, it actually takes energy to cool the nitrogen in the atmosphere down until it condenses. The second law of thermodynamics dictates that heat naturally flows from a hotter region to a colder region, to make it move from a colder region to a hotter region you need heat a pump which requires energy, just like you need a pump to move water from a low pressure region to a high pressure region. There is no way to extract work from a region of uniform pressure, temperature or potential difference.
Now as far as water is concerned I don't have the bond energies handy and I can't be bothered to look them up but, it takes just as much energy to split up the hydrogen and oxygen atoms as the energy that is released when they recombine. It doesn't matter what method you use to split them up, whether it be electrolysis, plasma, or some far out nanobot cutters, the same is always the case. Just like, if you have two magnets stuck together, the amount of energy release when you bring them together is equal to the energy expended separating them regardless of whether you use your hands, a pair of pliers or a mallet.