energy in an atom

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kchriste said:
Maybe, but it'll be hard to tell because one rotation is a VERY long time. We can look at older Galaxies and guess that one of the disc type ones was like ours once, but there is no way to prove it.

If what you say is correct then spiral galaxies would only appear fleetingly and be very rare. They do however seem to be relatively abundant.

Mike.
 

You have to remember that spiral galaxies don't really have "trailing spiral arms" so they can't wind up into elliptical galaxies. The "arms" are due to those parts of the galaxy emitting more light than the "dark empty space between the arms". So they're both elliptical really...just one has dark areas to make it look like empty space. There is still "galactic mass stuff" between in the dark spots between the so called "arms".
 

But, even if "dark" areas exist, why don't the light areas get spread around due to the speed differential between matter at different radii?

Mike.
 
Pommie said:
But, even if "dark" areas exist, why don't the light areas get spread around due to the speed differential between matter at different radii?

Mike.

Now that is a different question

The reason is still uknown and unproven. But here is a promising theory: Google "Density-Wave Theory of Galactic Spiral Structure". It's a doozy.

Here is are some simple links presearched for your amusement:
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/D/densitywave.html
http://www.astronomynotes.com/ismnotes/s8.htm
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=199

The last link also mentions the Stochastic Self-Propagative Star Formation
 
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If that's the case it'd be cool if we could create a time varying gravitational feild and use it for communication. I suppose it would act like a wave traveling through space. There again I know I'm talking about the kind of thing you see in science fiction films.

Just another thing, am I right in that mass and energy are the same thing? Gravity bends light and when an atom is split all the resulting particals have a lower mass than when they were bound together in the origional atom despite the fact than none of them have disappeared.
 

There is still quantum energy in the atom which would prevent that situation.
 
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dknguyen said:
Uhhh, electrons are matter aren't they? I don't think you can define some matter as a tendency and other matter as things.

How much does 10^10 electrons weigh? I think electrons have rest mass only.
 
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That's not so clear Gaston. Even empty space has a certain amount of energy associated with it, but aside from the theories and whatever has been experimentally proven so far, there's no known way to harness it. (I could be wrong) There's also no way of knowing what manipulation of raw space would actually do. You're talking about actually draining energy from the fabric of spacetime itself. Creepy stuff.
 
Sceadwian said:
You're talking about actually draining energy from the fabric of spacetime itself. Creepy stuff.

Great, so then humanity won't be destroying the environment, we'll just be depleting spacetime.
 
Jeees, you young guys worry about depleteing space time. I just wonder where the next sensible space time theory will come from!!!

If "insert relevant imaginary freind" wanted us to wory about such things, she would have kept her knickers on.!!!!

Mike.
 

Actually, there is strong speculation that there is a 5th force, tied to dark matter, that is actually a repulsive force! It is speculated that this force (based on Einstein's cosmological constant) is what is accelerating the expansion of the universe.
 
In relation to energy in atoms...what about atomic fusion?Is it closely possible these days? Doesn't it produce nuclear energy of some sort? Remember Doc Ock from Spiderman? Or I'm just believing hollywood too much?
 
what about atomic fusion?Is it closely possible these days
It's been done already. The problem is that it takes more energy to start a controlled fusion reaction than you get out of it. Hydrogen bombs are the only efficient method so far. Go figure!
 
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