()blivion
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Hello all.
I started this thread because me and lurkepus have a fundamental disagreement on how the typical biomass gasification system works. The original debate can be found in this thread. https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/pic-mcu-ice-speed-governor.132904/ I brought the debate here because it is highly off topic for that thread.
A condensed summery of our positions on the matter.
I am fairly sure, in accordance with the Wiki article on biomass gasification, that the majority of the combustible gas's produced by the process are carbon monoxide, and hydrogen. And that this would indicate that one wants to use just the right amount of oxygen, as carbon monoxide can not be made without oxygen.
lurkepus, on the other hand seems to be convinced that he can make more/better gas, by just heating the biomass in a totally oxygen starved environment. He fears adding oxygen will consume more fuel, rather than produce it. And that excess oxygen could cause an explosion. He believes the main process works instead through the science of pyrolysis.
I don't believe he is entirely wrong, excess oxygen will cause more fuel consumption, and could lead to an explosion. And the article for biomass gasification does mention pyrolysis as a contributing factor to the whole process.
However, I am convinced that the majority of the reactions that produce combustible gas DO NOT come from pyrolysis. Rather they come from light oxygenation of the carbon content of the biomass. As such, I believe that his plan for an oxygen void pyrolysis chamber will ultimately fail because he will not be able to convert the solid carbon into carbon monoxide or methane gas.
I will of course allow lurkepus to speak for himself on the matter, before I go into detail. But, I believe the heart of this debate is caused by the little known fact that carbon monoxide is, in fact, a combustible gas. If anyone would like to chime in on our positions, please feel free.
I started this thread because me and lurkepus have a fundamental disagreement on how the typical biomass gasification system works. The original debate can be found in this thread. https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/pic-mcu-ice-speed-governor.132904/ I brought the debate here because it is highly off topic for that thread.
A condensed summery of our positions on the matter.
I am fairly sure, in accordance with the Wiki article on biomass gasification, that the majority of the combustible gas's produced by the process are carbon monoxide, and hydrogen. And that this would indicate that one wants to use just the right amount of oxygen, as carbon monoxide can not be made without oxygen.
wikipedia.org said:Gasification is a process that converts organic or fossil based carbonaceous materials into carbon monoxide, hydrogen and carbon dioxide. This is achieved by reacting the material at high temperatures (>700 °C), without combustion, with a controlled amount of oxygen and/or steam.
lurkepus, on the other hand seems to be convinced that he can make more/better gas, by just heating the biomass in a totally oxygen starved environment. He fears adding oxygen will consume more fuel, rather than produce it. And that excess oxygen could cause an explosion. He believes the main process works instead through the science of pyrolysis.
I don't believe he is entirely wrong, excess oxygen will cause more fuel consumption, and could lead to an explosion. And the article for biomass gasification does mention pyrolysis as a contributing factor to the whole process.
wikipedia.org said:2. The pyrolysis (or devolatilization) process occurs at around 200-300°C. Volatiles are released and char is produced, resulting in up to 70% weight loss for coal. The process is dependent on the properties of the carbonaceous material and determines the structure and composition of the char, which will then undergo gasification reactions.
However, I am convinced that the majority of the reactions that produce combustible gas DO NOT come from pyrolysis. Rather they come from light oxygenation of the carbon content of the biomass. As such, I believe that his plan for an oxygen void pyrolysis chamber will ultimately fail because he will not be able to convert the solid carbon into carbon monoxide or methane gas.
I will of course allow lurkepus to speak for himself on the matter, before I go into detail. But, I believe the heart of this debate is caused by the little known fact that carbon monoxide is, in fact, a combustible gas. If anyone would like to chime in on our positions, please feel free.
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