B.J.T transistor

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So just to make sure we are on the same page:
Using Amirs datasheet -
The curve shows a beta of 15 at 10 amps so your method would suggest to get saturation we would need 10 amps divided by 1.5 or 6.6 amps of base drive to get saturation at 10 amps of collector current? And likewise at 4 amps of collector current the gain would be 2-- 20hfe/10 or 2 amps, even though the data sheet specs Vce sat at 3.3 and 0.4 amps?
Your rule wastes a lot of power and mine would let this transistor come a bit out of saturation at 10 amps.
 
So just to make sure we are on the same page:
Using Amirs datasheet -
Your rule wastes a lot of power and mine would let this transistor come a bit out of saturation at 10 amps.

If the transistor come out of saturation at 10A, that's where the power would be wasted.
 
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