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So you see we are really at the place where we want to discover if the displacement current is a real current or just a byproduct of an equation. ... Now the only argument left is about the displacement current, is it real or not?
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Well you're doing the same thing then
Also, you admit that there is no charge flowing through the cap, and the only thing left is the field, so what exactly are you saying is flowing through the cap then? If the displacement current isnt doing anything, who needs it?
In other words, what is it that you are trying to prove?
Also, are you still saying that "current flows through the capacitor"?
I think you should state what exactly you are trying to prove (or simply show) by posting here, in your own words.
Ok so, I thought I would take another crack at it. I'm not sure where you would make any changes the field changes on right angles churning through from Plate A to Plate B.
HA! Didn't I say some days ago to think of the E-M wave as a chain? (Post #355)
Yes, you most certainly did. I completely read right over the top and highlighted another event.
Anything you wish to add. As far as I know they should be turning right or clockwise and should impulses and 90deg angles with forward momentum.
I would say a forward direction, or direction of propagation, as "momentum" would imply mass, and from a wave standpoint, no mass would be involved, though I'm sure a relativity theroist has proved otherwise.
Good grief man, I've been talking about this for weeks, do you never read anything before responding? If you don't know what I've said all along, then what is the point in repeating??? So you can go on disavowing any knowledge or understanding? Seems like everyone else has taken the time to read and understand my position, as no others seem to not know what I've said.
For some reason my mind also wants the rings to expand and contract, if the MF field has strength that begins at Plate A as intensity. Then it would be reasonable to assert that the field strength is formed at the source the field expands from Plate A or the source. Meaning the new rings are formed between Plate A these rings push out of Plate A and continue until the first field created comes into contact with Plate B.
I couldn't help but think that if this was stable enough the some kind of tunneling was occurring and that electrons would be permitted to flow over the field sort of like a skin effect. Each time the field contracts it has to build until your able to move electrons over the strengthened field.
Ok, nobody better be laughing. I guess it will be inevitable.
I know it's not correct but, a single conductor is how I want it. Moving electrons around on either Plates at the same time works as well for me. But, my mind wants it to be conventional in a lot of ways too!
Do you ever read anything before responding? I asked a simple question several times, and it takes three or four posts to get a straight answer out of you. Everyone else answers to the best of their knowledge at the time, while you simply complain about having to repeat a simple statement. It's starting to look like you dont want to really understand this at all, you're content with old knowledge part of which was never correct to begin with.
So i repeat, state what you are trying to prove here so we know exactly what it is you are arguing, unless of course you are afraid you will say something you'll regret
For example, do you agree with killivolt that there is an EM wave between the plates?
Do you agree that the so called displacement current in a vacuum cap is only a mathematical tool and will never be found to really exist?
One of our goals to to determine if the current really exits in a vacuum cap.
Everyone else answers to the best of their knowledge at the time, while you simply complain about having to repeat a simple statement.
For some reason my mind also wants the rings to expand and contract, if the MF field has strength that begins at Plate A as intensity. Then it would be reasonable to assert that the field strength is formed at the source the field expands from Plate A or the source. Meaning the new rings are formed between Plate A these rings push out of Plate A and continue until the first field created comes into contact with Plate B.
I couldn't help but think that if this was stable enough the some kind of tunneling was occurring and that electrons would be permitted to flow over the field sort of like a skin effect. Each time the field contracts it has to build until your able to move electrons over the strengthened field.
I know it's not correct but, a single conductor is how I want it. Moving electrons around on either Plates at the same time works as well for me. But, my mind wants it to be conventional in a lot of ways too!
I've given straight answers for a couple weeks now, and you seem to be the only one who still doesn't get it. It doesn't matter how many times I state my position, you'll continue to pretend that I haven't given answers. It does't matter how many times I prove my position, you'll continue to pretend I've not shown any proof. If I haven't given straight answers, why is it you're the only one compaining? Why is it you're the only one pretending I haven't been forthright? Everyone else understands what I've been saying, looks like you're the only one still in denial!
I'm not afraid of anything. You can clearly see my position is on record here, and no amount of denial can change that. If you want to challenge what I am on record as presenting, then go ahead. If you want to continue your silly path of pretending that I've not honestly and clearly stated my position, then you're on your own. People here are way to smart to fall for that kind of distraction.
BTW,
In one post, you complain that I repeat my statements, in the next you complain that I refuse to repeat my statements. You don't seem to know if you're coming or going. Like I said, cheap distractions don't work in this forum.
Like i said, you'll continue to complain while wasting more replies. Just answer the question and save yourself some effort. Quick bickering.
You know what, dont answer it then. Just go on your merry way as you have been since it's so hard for you to answer a simple question.
While you're at it, go back to school and sign up for "Conversation with humans 101".
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