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A PICkit2 and Junebug are way better than the winpic800. When i googled the winpic800 all I got were failure stories :)

As for AVR I hear that the dragon is not bad.
 
is a winpic800 better than a junebug or a pickit2?all will be cloned i am talking about first choice pics and than avrs.?
You're comparing software with hardware. Your comparison makes no sense.

Winpic800 is programmer software for an ancient Tait-style PIC programmer.

PICkit 2 is a programmer/debugger (hardware). Junebug is a PICkit 2 compatible programmer/debugger (hardware). Both are operated by the MPLAB IDE software.
 
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I googled Winpic800 and that was all I got out of it.
 
I googled Winpic800 and that was all I got out of it.
Well, I don't think the Tait is much used anymore. It connected to the parallel port of the PC and programmed the PIC in LVP mode (if I've googled correctly). :p

Winpic800 is one version of software used to program PICs with it.

As for AVR I hear that the dragon is not bad.
The AVR Dragon is excellent. IMHO it's the best programmer/debugger there is for newer model AVR's. If you need to work with older model chips you'll need an STK-500 or one of the other programmers though. Dragon support for older chips is nonexistent.
 
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Well, I don't think the Tait is much used anymore. It connected to the parallel port of the PC and programmed the PIC in LVP mode (if I've googled correctly). :p

No, the standard David Tait programmer was an HV programmer, and is the one most non-processor PIC programmers are based on.
 
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